January 19, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: He’s a JR with the Bulls owner. Will spend money to a point. Luxury Tax is a big line in the sand. He may go a few thousand over, but that’s about it. NBA is different. The teams that don’t go over split the tax money. If they did that in MLB, Ricketts would never be near the line. Cardinals are embarrassing now, too.
January 19, 20251 yr 31 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Almost as bad as Jerry… This is 50 times worse than Jerry.
January 19, 20251 yr 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This is 50 times worse than Jerry. "They think somehow we have all these dollars that the Dodgers have or the Mets have or the Yankees have and we just keep it. Which isn't true at all. What happens is we try to break even every year, and that's about it."— 670 The Score (@670TheScore) January 18, 2025 Tom Ricketts takes issue with the narrative surrounding the Cubs: "If we trade Cody Bellinger for a starting pitcher, that's a trade. If we trade Cody Bellinger to get the resources to sign a pitcher, that's a salary dump. It doesn't make any sense."— 670 The Score (@670TheScore) January 18, 2025 By replacing him with Colin Rea? really? Fans will love the financial Brewers-like astuteness of that move? https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2025/01/18/cubs-owner-and-chairman-tom-ricketts-talks-about-cubs-spending/ Edited January 19, 20251 yr by caulfield12
January 19, 20251 yr 'When you say “try to break even every year,” it connotes that you are affirmatively trying to manage money in a way that emphasizes the reduced spending part since that is entirely within the team’s control (as opposed to winning more games to generate more revenues …); and (2) teams and team-related assets have appreciated like crazy in major pro sports for decades now, so even if the team doesn’t turn an annual “profit,” it is absolutely generating significant additional wealth every year.' Well, somehow the White Sox are the exception here to this rule.
January 19, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: This is 50 times worse than Jerry. I disagree. Yes, they have more money to spend than the Sox but they are still spending more and are more successful.
January 19, 20251 yr 31 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I disagree. Yes, they have more money to spend than the Sox but they are still spending more and are more successful. GR already loses with their downward pointing arrow. TD Ameritrade isn't great...but they win the corporate battle by a land slide. Best yuppie gentrification award by a country mile. Edited January 19, 20251 yr by caulfield12
January 19, 20251 yr 37 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I disagree. Yes, they have more money to spend than the Sox but they are still spending more and are more successful. BS. The Cubs have somewhere around double the Sox revenue on paper, plus they took over the whole neighborhood. They should be the Dodgers. They are damned liars.
January 19, 20251 yr 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: BS. The Cubs have somewhere around double the Sox revenue on paper, plus they took over the whole neighborhood. They should be the Dodgers. They are damned liars. Bellinger turned into Colin Rea and there's just no way they keep Tucker in-house. The Cubs spend just enough to create the appearance of competitiveness...but two years ago was their best shot. Top 5 farm system the last couple of years but nothing close to a Jon Lester anchor this time around. Just one shot with Tucker in 2025. Only chance is their rookie 3B becomes a total stud. Go BrewCrew/Chourio.
January 19, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: BS. The Cubs have somewhere around double the Sox revenue on paper, plus they took over the whole neighborhood. They should be the Dodgers. They are damned liars. Meanwhile, the Sox are down to a $65 million dollar payroll right now? The Sox are still worse. We are lower than the A’s now. Edited January 19, 20251 yr by WhiteSox2023
January 19, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Meanwhile, the Sox are down to a $65 million dollar payroll right now? The Sox are still worse. We are lower than the A’s now. Cut that in half without Robert and Benintendi...
January 19, 20251 yr 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Meanwhile, the Sox are down to a $65 million dollar payroll right now? The Sox are still worse. We are lower than the A’s now. In 2012, at their nadir, the Cubs went 61-101, and they drew 2.8 million. Rickets is the worst.
January 19, 20251 yr 22 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Meanwhile, the Sox are down to a $65 million dollar payroll right now? The Sox are still worse. We are lower than the A’s now. Cubs revenues dwarf the Sox. They could sneeze up 250 to 300 million a year.
January 19, 20251 yr The numbers aren't even close. The Cubs grossed half a billion without their off the books investments. They profited $70 million BEFORE that.
January 19, 20251 yr More than 3x the gate receipts...make that a spread of 4x for 2025. And Houston Astros' 0.0 tv shares like at the beginning of their rebuild. Edited January 19, 20251 yr by caulfield12
January 19, 20251 yr 42 minutes ago, WestEddy said: In 2012, at their nadir, the Cubs went 61-101, and they drew 2.8 million. Rickets is the worst. Some would say that perpetual rebuilds are worse than anything.
January 19, 20251 yr 21 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Some would say that perpetual rebuilds are worse than anything. Life is a perpetual rebuild.
January 19, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I disagree. Yes, they have more money to spend than the Sox but they are still spending more and are more successful. Dude come on. The Cubs own an entire neighborhood. They have all the resources in the world. Jerry sucks but the Ricketts are worse.
January 19, 20251 yr 28 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Dude come on. The Cubs own an entire neighborhood. They have all the resources in the world. Jerry sucks but the Ricketts are worse. Jerry sucks in a different way...but he would never finance anything from his own pockets. Being told no to Ricketts is more like "yes, maybe?" if he can see the long-term benefits of shorter term pain/investments.
January 19, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: Dude come on. The Cubs own an entire neighborhood. They have all the resources in the world. Jerry sucks but the Ricketts are worse. I think the Kyle Tucker handling will tell the tale at the end of the season. Last chance for Ricketts to spend up.
January 19, 20251 yr 45 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Jerry sucks in a different way...but he would never finance anything from his own pockets. Being told no to Ricketts is more like "yes, maybe?" if he can see the long-term benefits of shorter term pain/investments. Reinsdorf literally made his fortune investing in real estate.
January 19, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Reinsdorf literally made his fortune investing in real estate. But I think the current model is to be gifted acres of prime city land to develop for free. He doesn't want to buy in a popular hood for market to develop it beyond it's inflated price.
January 19, 20251 yr 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Reinsdorf literally made his fortune investing in real estate. Sure but that hasn't carried over to anything related to the White Sox other than a set of empty parking lots.
January 20, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Meanwhile, the Sox are down to a $65 million dollar payroll right now? The Sox are still worse. We are lower than the A’s now. I won’t defend a $65M payroll or Jerry for that matter, but we’re also rebuilding so you’re comparing apples and oranges. The Cubs should be outspending us by a mile right now. That being said, I do agree the Ricketts should be doing more theoretically, but they are also a bunch of trust fund fuckwads so who knows.
January 20, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, WestEddy said: In 2012, at their nadir, the Cubs went 61-101, and they drew 2.8 million. Rickets is the worst. There is no rational argument for the Ricketts being worse than Jerry. The latter is a no doubt bottom four owner in baseball right now along with Nutting, Fisher, and whoever owns the Rockies.
January 20, 20251 yr 15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: There is no rational argument for the Ricketts being worse than Jerry. The latter is a no doubt bottom four owner in baseball right now along with Nutting, Fisher, and whoever owns the Rockies. I agree. I hate Ricketts on principle, but he should be basking in good will for 2016, and subsequent beatification of "Wrigleyville". And they all just hunker down and cry poor. I consider myself fairly liberal, but I completely understand a guy owning a business, and just spending what he can to get customers in the door. Spending $450M on a guy like Tucker seems performative, even if he does produce. "Look at how much I want to WIN!!!!" Just so bro-dudes can feel mighty while taking credit for other men playing baseball and winning games. But he shouldn't be worrying about $10M, or an extra year for a reliever, or whatnot.
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