WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: What next, McCarthy and Fletcher weren't both offered...pick one of two, for Mena? What's hilarious here is the White Sox and Tigers both avoided intradivisional trades (the other for John Flaherty) which eventually provided the Dodgers WS MVP Edman Kopech and Flaherty... But they sure showed those pesky Twins!!! Without those three guys, the Dodgers likely don't even get past the Padres, let alone win a World Series. But be careful what you wish for...those frustrations helped lead to a Pohlad Family surrender. They're likely selling the team to even more deep-picked investors like the Ishbia's, making the Sox future competition even stiffer for 2026-2029. It’s not even worth it, @caulfield12. He will make up any BS he can to defend his man love Getz. He just said we shouldn’t listen to what the Twins beat reporter said or what our own SoxTalk insider said and then proceeded to make up his own entirely hypothetical story on what he thinks happened. 🤡 Edited January 24 by WhiteSox2023 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Getz is right, they are headed in the right direction...as soon as new ownership arrives, not until then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’ll trust @Y2Jimmy0’s info over your incoherent ramblings. No one cares about Wheeler. The Sox failed at acquiring him just like they did with Machado and Harper. Old news that has nothing to do with this story. Yeah, I'll take literally anybody's word over yours. I sure hope you and Caulfield get over the fact that a hitter in the Twins' system was discussed at the TDL, and Getz went in another direction. I'm sure you have another 1000 posts in you to work through your feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: It’s not even worth it, @caulfield12. He will make up any BS he can to defend his man love Getz. He just said we shouldn’t listen to what the Twins beat reporter said or what our own SoxTalk insider said and then proceeded to make up his own entirely hypothetical story on what he thinks happened. 🤡 Does he realize how long Hayes covered the White Sox/Chicago sports before being exiled to the Twin Cities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Does he realize how long Hayes covered the White Sox/Chicago sports before being exiled to the Twin Cities? Yes, I realize. Is word of the Fedde trade just getting to you in Vietnam? I'm truly amazed at how long some of you guys can feign hurt feelings over a trade rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Yeah, I'll take literally anybody's word over yours. I sure hope you and Caulfield get over the fact that a hitter in the Twins' system was discussed at the TDL, and Getz went in another direction. I'm sure you have another 1000 posts in you to work through your feelings. "Hitter was discussed"...sure the Twins are going to send Jenkins and Rodriguez too. Brooks Lee as well. Why not? Keachsall Culpepper Raya Festa the only logical names in play...maybe Matthews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: "Hitter was discussed"...sure the Twins are going to send Jenkins and Rodriguez too. Brooks Lee as well. Why not? Keachsall Culpepper Raya Festa the only logical names in play...maybe Matthews. Yes, I'm sure the Twins wanted to send their entire top 10 to the Sox for Fedde. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Yes, I realize. Is word of the Fedde trade just getting to you in Vietnam? I'm truly amazed at how long some of you guys can feign hurt feelings over a trade rumor. My coworker's in Ho Chi Minh City. I will be at Xishuangbanna, done with Terracotta Warriors/Xi'an...it's near the Golden Triangle of Myanmar Thailand Laos and Cambodian borders meeting, but still technically in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Yes, I'm sure the Twins wanted to send their entire top 10 to the Sox for Fedde. LOL. Read his post again. That’s not what he was saying. “Hitter” isn’t plural. Edited January 24 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Yes, I'm sure the Twins wanted to send their entire top 10 to the Sox for Fedde. LOL. Getz is just THAT good, right? Oh that's right, he was complaining this off season that other GMs weren't being as forthcoming as he was in trade negotiations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: It’s not even worth it, @caulfield12. He will make up any BS he can to defend his man love Getz. He just said we shouldn’t listen to what the Twins beat reporter said or what our own SoxTalk insider said and then proceeded to make up his own entirely hypothetical story on what he thinks happened. 🤡 Dude, we all have a pretty good idea of what happened from the reporting. All Jimmy said was there was more than Hayes reported. Weird that Hayes didn't report how much money the Twins were asking for. Or transcripts from the telephone calls. I suppose he has his....reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Read his post again. That’s not what he was saying. “Hitter” isn’t plural. Dude, take your own advice. We really don't need you to moderate our posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 WestEddy...wouldn't your energies be better spent cold calling season ticket holders and encouraging/motivating them to attend SoxFest? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Dude, we all have a pretty good idea of what happened from the reporting. All Jimmy said was there was more than Hayes reported. Weird that Hayes didn't report how much money the Twins were asking for. Or transcripts from the telephone calls. I suppose he has his....reasons. I have no clue what you think is a “pretty good idea of what happened”. Hayes says Keaschall was offered for Fedde and our own insider said the Twins also wanted cash as well. You seem to disagree with this. So it’s not possible that Hayes heard Keaschall was offered for Fedde but he didn’t also hear that the Twins wanted cash included? And yes, all baseball insiders normally release transcripts from their phone calls. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Dude, take your own advice. We really don't need you to moderate our posts. You asserted that I had said that one hitter alone was worth a potentially 8 fWAR swing...unfortunately, only one guy in the entire AL Central fits that description. Definitely not on the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: WestEddy...wouldn't your energies be better spent cold calling season ticket holders and encouraging/motivating them to attend SoxFest? Unlike you guys, I don't rely on attendance figures to buck up my own self-confidence. Your energy might be better spent moving on from a single trade rumor from 6 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: WestEddy...wouldn't your energies be better spent cold calling season ticket holders and encouraging/motivating them to attend SoxFest? He’s too busy designing the layout for his Chris Getz fan site right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Unlike you guys, I don't rely on attendance figures to buck up my own self-confidence. Your energy might be better spent moving on from a single trade rumor from 6 months ago. Yet, here you are… responding and absolutely sure that two people with better sources than you are wrong and you are right. Edited January 24 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I have no clue what you think is a “pretty good idea of what happened”. Hayes says Keaschall was offered for Fedde and our own insider said the Twins also wanted cash as well. You seem to disagree with this. So it’s not possible that Hayes heard Keaschall was offered for Fedde but he didn’t also hear that the Twins wanted cash included? And yes, all baseball insiders normally release transcripts from their phone calls. Huh? Oh, so now it's possible Hayes didn't hear the whole story. LOL. I thought the Twins OFFERED KEASCHALL FOR FEDDE!!!!! But now it's BUT HAYES DIDN'T HEAR THE WHOLE STORYYYYYYY!!!!!!! The string you posted from Jimmy said that if the Sox were going to deal with the Twins, and send them money with Fedde (nobody knows how much), they had a different package in mind. Then it never came together. Big deal. I know that all roads must lead to Getz making a horrible deal for you. They got 3 guys back from the Dodgers. The Dodgers apparently weren't on the level about Vargas. People who know more than me called it a player short. If Vargas heals up and can hit, the deal looks better. And really, you don't need to do drive-bys and make people explain every line of their posts to you. Not everything's about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Yet, here you are… responding and absolutely sure that two people with better sources than you are wrong and you are right. We all have the same sources. Maybe it's possible you don't know the whole story of the Vargas/Fedde trade. I mean, if the great Dan Hayes didn't know about the money ask, perhaps it's possible you don't know about some other aspect of their talks. Just sayin'. But of course, your right, and I'm wrong. too funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, WestEddy said: We all have the same sources. Maybe it's possible you don't know the whole story of the Vargas/Fedde trade. I mean, if the great Dan Hayes didn't know about the money ask, perhaps it's possible you don't know about some other aspect of their talks. Just sayin'. But of course, your right, and I'm wrong. too funny. Even if they asked for all the tea in China, it was dumb not to pay off ALL of Fedde's remaining contract for the #45 FV prospect. But there's NO WAY that was the Twins' ask (and the Pohlads/Falvey know JR's financial/spending history, it is the same as their own except for Correa and Lopez)...as he wasn't nearly to that level of hyped MiLB prospect in July and there was the injury issue as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 4 hours ago, WestEddy said: We all have the same sources. Maybe it's possible you don't know the whole story of the Vargas/Fedde trade. I mean, if the great Dan Hayes didn't know about the money ask, perhaps it's possible you don't know about some other aspect of their talks. Just sayin'. But of course, your right, and I'm wrong. too funny. We have the information from Dan Hayes, a Twins beat reporter, and from SoxTalk’s own insider. Your commentary on the potential trade and what could have happened doesn’t mean much of anything as I don’t believe you have any inside information on the story, so anything you say is simply conjecture. I am going by the information provided by two actual insiders and it appears that it was indeed possible to acquire Keaschall for Fedde, if cash was also included. Getz [Jerry] likely didn’t think a return of Keaschall was worth the amount of cash he would have had to kick in with Fedde, which I guess could have been anywhere between $100K to $10 million, but no amount has been stated. Instead, Getz got a worse return after including Kopech with Fedde in Vargas, Albertus, and Perez. I wouldn’t be surprised if Getz could have traded Kopech alone to the Dodgers for both Albertus and Perez, but once again like everything you are saying, that is just my own conjecture because I have no inside knowledge. You can continue to twist yourself in a knot with various “what if?” scenarios even though you have no inside knowledge of this Fedde/Keaschall trade discussion, but I choose to rely on information provided by the people in the know rather than your random conjecture in yet another attempt to be the resident Sox/Getz apologist. So there is no right or wrong. You are just throwing junk in the air with no foundation, while I am going by the information provided by two insiders. Edited January 24 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Guys, stop litigating a trade that didn’t happen. JFC this is embarrassing. Caulfield stop trying to cause fights in the name of discussion 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The future certainly looks brighter with a very good farm system. The problem is, any of the guys who work out and end up being good MLB players will be traded before being paid to stay. That is, until there is new ownership. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Methinks the Rate.com symbol on the ballpark differs with Getzy's feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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