WestEddy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 50 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You think that Getz would realize this by now considering he DFA both DeLoach and Amaya and was able to retain one and reclaim the other since he was put back on waivers again. If you have multiple guys that can be DFA, not claimed, or were DFA a second time so you can reclaim them, you definitely have players you can dump from your roster for other players. 🤣 But they "dumped" them by DFAing them the first time. DeLoach isn't on the 40-man, and Amaya is shortstop depth during spring training, where they still play 4+ middle infielders every day. Teams shouldn't be cutting players just because they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: You don't need me to spend my time typing out a list of names you could just go look up. If you think the White Sox have no young options to play the infield, I'm not sure what you're following. I was just curious as to which players you were referring to for each position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 18 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: He also can play CF whereas Slater is barely adequate in LF. You can say Canario wouldn’t help the sox 3-4 years down the road, but you don’t know that. We can say for a fact Slater won’t be By all reports he doesn't really have much of a chance to be anything. Why bother cutting someone who is already signed and waste the resources in a year when we know they will be bad with either of them. Im not saying slater is anything great or even good. He's signed and has proven mlb experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 24 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: He hasn’t yet what? Made it to the majors? He has .850+ OPS in 45 mlb ABs He also did that with a .476 BABIP. When major league pitchers adjust to him, his numbers will drop precipitously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 20 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I was just curious as to which players you were referring to for each position. I'm referring to the players you can find just by looking on RosterResource on FanGraphs. Here's who they've started at 2B/SS/3B each "scheduled" game this spring. 2/22 - Meidroth / Monty / Vargas 2/23 - Rojas / Amaya / Sosa 2/24 - Gray / Meidroth / Vargas 2/25 - Sosa / Monty / Rojas 2/26 - Meidroth / Amaya / Vargas 2/27 - Rojas / Gray / Sosa 2/28 - Baldwin / Amaya / Vargas 3/01 - Sosa / Meidroth / Rojas 3/02 - Baldwin / Amaya / Vargas 3/03 - Rojas / Meidroth / Drury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 33 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I'm referring to the players you can find just by looking on RosterResource on FanGraphs. Here's who they've started at 2B/SS/3B each "scheduled" game this spring. 2/22 - Meidroth / Monty / Vargas 2/23 - Rojas / Amaya / Sosa 2/24 - Gray / Meidroth / Vargas 2/25 - Sosa / Monty / Rojas 2/26 - Meidroth / Amaya / Vargas 2/27 - Rojas / Gray / Sosa 2/28 - Baldwin / Amaya / Vargas 3/01 - Sosa / Meidroth / Rojas 3/02 - Baldwin / Amaya / Vargas 3/03 - Rojas / Meidroth / Drury Okay, so they are “spoiled for choices in the infield” but mostly with guys who aren't yet currently proven MLB quality infielders or are has-been’s. Edited March 4 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 32 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Okay, so they are “spoiled for choices in the infield” but mostly with guys who aren't yet currently proven MLB quality infielders or are has-been’s. Can you explain what you're expecting during a rebuild? Twelve 23-year-old, standing All-Stars? I'm not sure what your beef is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Can you explain what you're expecting during a rebuild? Twelve 23-year-old, standing All-Stars? I'm not sure what your beef is. No, your statement was fair. I was reading it as you saying they had a ton of solid/proven options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: He also did that with a .476 BABIP. When major league pitchers adjust to him, his numbers will drop precipitously. Well yeah sample size. Point is he made it to mlb, so claim that “all reports say he has no chance” is false. At least one report must say he has a chance else he would have never been called up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 8 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: Well yeah sample size. Point is he made it to mlb, so claim that “all reports say he has no chance” is false. At least one report must say he has a chance else he would have never been called up Not to mention Mets, having vastly superior outfield depth to the Sox, added him to 40 man roster. That would indicate there is at least a second report that says he has a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 43 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: Not to mention Mets, having vastly superior outfield depth to the Sox, added him to 40 man roster. That would indicate there is at least a second report that says he has a chance Baseball teams don't really go off of fan scouting sites' reports. Canario profiles as the short side of an OF platoon that will be missing the BBs part of "3 true outcomes". The Mets had an open spot on their 40-man and stowed him. I wouldn't say he has no chance but correcting that part of his game doesn't happen instantly, and most often, not at the major league level. Just a simple perusal of online reports can give a hint why the Sox and 28 other teams took a pass on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Baseball teams don't really go off of fan scouting sites' reports. Canario profiles as the short side of an OF platoon that will be missing the BBs part of "3 true outcomes". The Mets had an open spot on their 40-man and stowed him. I wouldn't say he has no chance but correcting that part of his game doesn't happen instantly, and most often, not at the major league level. Just a simple perusal of online reports can give a hint why the Sox and 28 other teams took a pass on him. Maybe Getz could some help somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 30 pitchers have been used before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46DidIt Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, WestEddy said: Baseball teams don't really go off of fan scouting sites' reports. Canario profiles as the short side of an OF platoon that will be missing the BBs part of "3 true outcomes". The Mets had an open spot on their 40-man and stowed him. I wouldn't say he has no chance but correcting that part of his game doesn't happen instantly, and most often, not at the major league level. Just a simple perusal of online reports can give a hint why the Sox and 28 other teams took a pass on him. That was kind of my unspoken point. That’s why I referenced him reaching the majors with the Cubs and being added to 40 man with the Mets. It was the guy on your side of the argument claiming “ according to all reports”. Obviously the reports of the Cubs and Mets differ from whatever he has subscribed to Edited March 4 by 46DidIt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 17 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: That was kind of my unspoken point. That’s why I referenced him reaching the majors with the Cubs and being added to 40 man with the Mets. It was the guy on your side of the argument claiming “ according to all reports”. Obviously the reports of the Cubs and Mets differ from whatever he has subscribed to The Mets are apparently looking to trade OF Starling Marte to dump his salary, which would potentially open up an opening day roster spot for Canario. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/03/mets-trade-rumors-royals-starling-marte.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I’m in the camp that would have rather had Canario than Slater. We know what Slater is. Even if he’s good, he won’t be here for long and will only fetch a lottery ticket type prospect at best. Canario might not ever be anything, but he’s significantly younger and clearly has some sort of talent considering he’s made it this far. It’s a shame they didn’t make a move for him considering all the injuries that have happened subsequently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 53 minutes ago, 46DidIt said: That was kind of my unspoken point. That’s why I referenced him reaching the majors with the Cubs and being added to 40 man with the Mets. It was the guy on your side of the argument claiming “ according to all reports”. Obviously the reports of the Cubs and Mets differ from whatever he has subscribed to It's kind of like Tim Elko. He's hit everywhere he's been. But he has alarming strikeout rates for the minor leagues. The Sox aren't cutting him because of that because he is a prospect, and he's hit at every level. But nobody really considered Elko a primo 1B prospect because of the Ks. The reports I posted about Canario say he's not good at pitch recognition, weak at the bottom of the zone. There's also the alarmingly low contact rates at AAA that will take a bigger hit in the bigs. Baseball teams know what they can work with for the upside. Keith Law has been a major league scout and thinks Canario tops out as a weak side platoon who will strike out a ton and hit a bunch of HRs. I never saw the big deal about guys like Joey Gallo or Mark Reynolds. If everything goes perfectly, they lead the league in Ks, hit 30 HRs, and give you maybe 3 wins. If anything is off, they're practically replacement level. (Gallo's a good fielder, Reynolds wasn't.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I didn’t realize we had three outfielders out — specifically that Michael A. Taylor has been undergoing scans due to some elbow inflammation. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/03/al-notes-slater-garcia-canterino.html Oblique injuries take a while to get better and who knows what is up with Taylor? If these guys all hit the DL, perhaps they go with Fletcher, Robert, and Tauchman in the outfield. Hopefully the Mets can’t find a taker for Starling Marte and we can nab Canario as an extra corner OF. Drury makes the team primarily as an infielder but can back up a corner OF position in a pinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, 46DidIt said: That was kind of my unspoken point. That’s why I referenced him reaching the majors with the Cubs and being added to 40 man with the Mets. It was the guy on your side of the argument claiming “ according to all reports”. Obviously the reports of the Cubs and Mets differ from whatever he has subscribed to If he was valuable why did he get acquired for cash considerations? I'll still go with the people who evaluate the minors for a living and say that the Ks and bat to ball skills will keep him from being an mlb player of any consequence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I didn’t realize we had three outfielders out — specifically that Michael A. Taylor has been undergoing scans due to some elbow inflammation. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/03/al-notes-slater-garcia-canterino.html Oblique injuries take a while to get better and who knows what is up with Taylor? If these guys all hit the DL, perhaps they go with Fletcher, Robert, and Tauchman in the outfield. Hopefully the Mets can’t find a taker for Starling Marte and we can nab Canario as an extra corner OF. Drury makes the team primarily as an infielder but can back up a corner OF position in a pinch. That's a possibility if they wind up having that many on the IL. Cheap replacement. Of course trying to off load a 20 million dollar injured player won't be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ptatc said: That's a possibility if they wind up having that many on the IL. Cheap replacement. Of course trying to off load a 20 million dollar injured player won't be easy. I didn’t realize he was owed $19.5 million. He’s still somewhat productive at 36 years old but the Mets are probably stuck with him unless they eat the majority of that money and a contender wants him. Edited March 5 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Even a guy like Stone Garrett would have made sense after all these injuries. I just don’t understand Getz. He’s seemingly loyal to these fringe guys like Colas and Fletcher but not loyal enough to actually give them extended opportunities to prove themselves at the MLB level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 47 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said: Even a guy like Stone Garrett would have made sense after all these injuries. I just don’t understand Getz. He’s seemingly loyal to these fringe guys like Colas and Fletcher but not loyal enough to actually give them extended opportunities to prove themselves at the MLB level. What makes you think Getz is loyal to these guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: What makes you think Getz is loyal to these guys? Because neither of them deserve to have a spot on the 40-man at this point. Yet they are still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: What makes you think Getz is loyal to these guys? Well, even Julks and DeLoach are still around, that's a bit mystifying...obviously, more for AAA depth/filler, but you think could find SOMEONE/ANYONE better on the waiver wire. Worst case, it's simply a change of scenery trade. Mitchell's not doing anything so far, and Veras has looked pretty terrible...just no quality depth in the OF until you get to Braden Montgomery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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