T R U Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Lol me too ! Double victory day for me because I said after they signed MA Taylor that I thought Robert would still be on the Sox on Opening Day. Why are people taking victory laps? The Marlins saw a little over 1 season of Jake Burger and said no thanks and moved him for some back end top 30 organizational prospects. Nobody won that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Which guys? Jankowski? He will be DFAed within seven days. Tauchman has been a legitimately productive OF for the last few years despite every poster here calling him “crappy”. Slater was one of the best hitters against LHP from 2019 to 2023 and was almost certainly a recommended “buy low” target of Fuller’s. I wouldn’t have added Taylor with the other two vets already in place, but Taylor is an elite defender who put up 2 fWAR/season from 2021 to 2023. Fletcher, Colas, & DeLoach can’t even hit AAA pitching in the second most hitter friendly park in AAA. People are demanding Getz be fired for losing 121 games last year and then turn around and complain about him adding what should be a 2 win RF platoon vs. the -2 wins they got out of the position last year. At this point, people will whine about everything. The people who were applauding the additions of Eder & Fletcher when first acquired are now throwing hissy fits about Getz being a total idiot for trading for them in the first place. Other than Robert, our OF is godawful, and I refuse to pretend otherwise. Even if you want to make a case for a marginal improvement over a young guy, these are deals on 30something players who will be long gone by the time this team is .500 again, let alone when they are good. Literal zero chance of them helping the Sox to winning baseball. Why we should be excited to waste ABs on guys who will be on 16 inch fields somewhere by the time the Sox are good again is beyond me, and I am definitely not about to get excited about it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Lol me too ! Double victory day for me because I said after they signed MA Taylor that I thought Robert would still be on the Sox on Opening Day. There is only one Original Tribal Chief, and you ain’t it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Other than Robert, our OF is godawful, and I refuse to pretend otherwise. Even if you want to make a case for a marginal improvement over a young guy, these are deals on 30something players who will be long gone by the time this team is .500 again, let alone when they are good. Literal zero chance of them helping the Sox to winning baseball. Why we should be excited to waste ABs on guys who will be on 16 inch fields somewhere by the time the Sox are good again is beyond me, and I am definitely not about to get excited about it. I’ve been making this same argument all offseason. Apparently, no one is having it. Obviously Robert has to start in CF and I understand that Benintendi has a bloated contract so he needs to play, but he can DH. Our corner outfield spots should be young players. Edited March 27 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, T R U said: Why are people taking victory laps? The Marlins saw a little over 1 season of Jake Burger and said no thanks and moved him for some back end top 30 organizational prospects. Nobody won that trade. Marlins are pretty great at talent evaluation, after they bring them up, am I right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’ve been making this same argument all offseason. Apparently, no one is having it. Not to mention that it IS the 121 loss season that dictates what this roster should look like. If we were an 80 win team, looking to get to 85, sure plug around the margins and bench every young kid. Knock yourself out. But we aren't. We are a historically bad team, with absolutely nothing to gain long term by playing any of these guys. Even if it is a 1% chance that Colas and company vs the Dunder Mifflin softball team guys's 0%, you go with the 1%. With as many times as I have heard about how we have hired all of these great dev guys, hitting coaches and coordinators and everyone else, why the f*** are we absolutely afraid to give them a chance with any of this younger players in our system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Other than Robert, our OF is godawful, and I refuse to pretend otherwise. Even if you want to make a case for a marginal improvement over a young guy, these are deals on 30something players who will be long gone by the time this team is .500 again, let alone when they are good. Literal zero chance of them helping the Sox to winning baseball. Why we should be excited to waste ABs on guys who will be on 16 inch fields somewhere by the time the Sox are good again is beyond me, and I am definitely not about to get excited about it. Who said you should be excited? The point is you guys continue to call Getz an imbecile for rocking a 121 loss team last year and then when he finds a way to improve one of our worst positions from Y24 with no budget and where there isn’t a single minor leaguer worth a damn you guys call him an idiot. If he hands Fletcher the RF job and he proceeds to put up a -2 win season you guys will rip him endlessly. It’s damned if you do, dammed with you guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who said you should be excited? The point is you guys continue to call Getz an imbecile for rocking a 121 loss team last year and then when he finds a way to improve one of our worst positions from Y24 with no budget and where there isn’t a single minor leaguer worth a damn you guys call him an idiot. If he hands Fletcher the RF job and he proceeds to put up a -2 win season you guys will rip him endlessly. It’s damned if you do, dammed with you guys. The way to improve a terrible team with no outfield talent is to acquire young outfielders and try them out. Giving at bats to old vets may add a couple wins for this season only but does absolutely nothing for the team long-term. Edited March 27 by WhiteSox2023 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 17 minutes ago, T R U said: Why are people taking victory laps? The Marlins saw a little over 1 season of Jake Burger and said no thanks and moved him for some back end top 30 organizational prospects. Nobody won that trade. Because Burger is still in the Majors and teams still want him and he still a very good hitting a FB. I think we're allowed to be silly. If Getz had made that trade you know damn well people would be taking victory laps about Getz poor judge of talent just like they are with Fletcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who said you should be excited? The point is you guys continue to call Getz an imbecile for rocking a 121 loss team last year and then when he finds a way to improve one of our worst positions from Y24 with no budget and where there isn’t a single minor leaguer worth a damn you guys call him an idiot. If he hands Fletcher the RF job and he proceeds to put up a -2 win season you guys will rip him endlessly. It’s damned if you do, dammed with you guys. He's an imbecile if he thinks a marginal improvement in 2025 is more important than discovering talent for 2030. That's the entire point here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: The way to improve a terrible team with no outfield talent is to acquire young outfielders and try them out. Giving at bats to old vets may add a couple wins for this season only but does absolutely nothing for the team long-term. Trotting a bunch of below replacement level OFs is somehow going to improve the team? What am I missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He's an imbecile if he thinks a marginal improvement in 2025 is more important than discovering talent for 2030. That's the entire point here. Fletcher, DeLoach, & Colas aren’t major league talents though…we don’t need to give them 600 plate appearances to confirm that at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Fletcher, DeLoach, & Colas aren’t major league talents though…we don’t need to give them 600 plate appearances to confirm that at this point. Neither is the rest of the roster, but here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Trotting a bunch of below replacement level OFs is somehow going to improve the team? What am I missing here? Well, we know who I would’ve acquired last month to play a corner. Worth a try over vet bums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Neither is the rest of the roster, but here we are. Tauchman isn’t a major league talent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Well, we know who I would’ve acquired last month to play a corner. Worth a try over vet bums. I’m not even against Canario at this point…but he hasn’t been DFAed yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, T R U said: This is most alarming to me. Everyone is hanging their hat on all these changes and hirings being made behind the scenes and here we are DFA'ing people this regime just traded for one offseason ago. Most of the hires were talking about didn't happen last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) Hope Thorpe can get healthy Edited March 27 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not even against Canario at this point…but he hasn’t been DFAed yet. He just was today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Tauchman isn’t a major league talent? So a potential fifth OF that won't be around past this year, all so we don't have to play anyone under 30. Do we need 600 PAs to figure that out? Again, why am I supposed to be so excited about a dev staff that we are absolutely afraid to use? Hell there was a million other DFAs of guys with control past next season who were out there besides the ones that we couldn't apparently do anything with here. Why are we so damned scared of acting like we are trying to build a team for 2030 and not 2025? That's what you should be doing when you lose 121 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 DRose was just on the radio...what did Schiffren say to him lol? Short half inning. Seems he's opening up a flower shop to employ local youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Vargas first White Sox 3B to lead off season in lineup 1st spot in order since Don Buford in 1966. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 57 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So a potential fifth OF that won't be around past this year, all so we don't have to play anyone under 30. Do we need 600 PAs to figure that out? Again, why am I supposed to be so excited about a dev staff that we are absolutely afraid to use? Hell there was a million other DFAs of guys with control past next season who were out there besides the ones that we couldn't apparently do anything with here. Why are we so damned scared of acting like we are trying to build a team for 2030 and not 2025? That's what you should be doing when you lose 121 games. 5th OF? Dude was 81st overall amongst all OFs in fWAR last year and only had 350 plate appearances. He’s been a productive player for three straight years. Edited March 27 by Chicago White Sox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: 5th OF? Dude was 81st overall amongst all OFs in fWAR last year and only had 350 plate appearances. He’s been a productive player for three straight years. that won't be around past this year, all so we don't have to play anyone under 30. Do we need 600 PAs to figure that out? Again, why am I supposed to be so excited about a dev staff that we are absolutely afraid to use? Hell there was a million other DFAs of guys with control past next season who were out there besides the ones that we couldn't apparently do anything with here. Why are we so damned scared of acting like we are trying to build a team for 2030 and not 2025? That's what you should be doing when you lose 121 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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