caulfield12 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 19 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I thought it was $50k/$100k Prior to the CBA in effect during 2017–2021, each draftee cost $50,000 and therefore $25,000 to be reacquired by his original team.[9] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 hours ago, oldsox said: What will they do with Rojas and Drury? Drury has not hit at all in AAA. I'd let that happen first before we worry about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 On 4/26/2025 at 1:54 PM, Bob Sacamano said: Moneyball 2: The Search for More Money Moneyball 2: What's in the drawer?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Is it still just $25/$50,000? It's 100 to pick a rule 5 and 50 to return him. So that's $150K By paying $25K the Cubs cost is $75K thus saving them $75K . Sox get a rule 5 for $25K but will cost $50 to return him or $75K total. So by paying the Cubs $25K they are basically splitting the cost of him being returned but if the Sox keep him they're paying only 25% of the cost to draft a Rule 5 guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It's 100 to pick a rule 5 and 50 to return him. So that's $150K By paying $25K the Cubs cost is $75K thus saving them $75K . Sox get a rule 5 for $25K but will cost $50 to return him or $75K total. So by paying the Cubs $25K they are basically splitting the cost of him being returned but if the Sox keep him they're paying only 25% of the cost to draft a Rule 5 guy. We probably haven't cut back on the creative accounting/finance dept. under JR at least. Couldn't find the list of all "cash considerations" moves since 2016 but we have to be Top 3 in all of baseball. And speaking of cash...Travis Jankowski just got a hit for TB lol. Edited April 27 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Sox have to win this one today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Sox have to win this one today. Why? It would be nice...but this next string of games into early June is going to out them 15-20 games under .500 in all likelihood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 19 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: $3.5 million? Getz already wasted more than that on Slater and Tauchman. Getz has wasted millions on garbage the past two offseasons, carrying on the tradition from Hahn. All those million here and there wasted on garbage vets adds up. But this is just par for the course. The Sox arent paying anyone besides Robert and Benintendi . They have one of the lowest payrolls in baseball. WTF are u talking about ? You do know it's has to cost money to field 26 MLB players not to mention paying call ups MLB minimum wage when guys get injured. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: The Sox arent paying anyone besides Robert and Benintendi . They have one of the lowest payrolls in baseball. WTF are u talking about ? You do know it's has to cost money to field 26 MLB players not to mention paying call ups MLB minimum wage when guys get injured. You can still waste money on a bunch of crap, even if it’s not $100 million. Like caufield mentioned, Getz essentially burned up $30 million with last year’s offseason and set the loss record. If you don’t understand that, I can’t help you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Martin pitching pretty good today.Sox hitters just not getting big hitstoday unlike yesterday. Vargas getting unned at 3rd didn't help but A's not better hitting into multiple DPs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You can still waste money on a bunch of crap, even if it’s not $100 million. Like caufield mentioned, Getz essentially burned up $30 million with last year’s offseason and set the loss record. If you don’t understand that, I can’t help you. I don't need your help to understand anything. If it's Sox related you hate on it . I cheer for the team to win despite how bad I know they are. You give me a laugh emoji for doing so. That's all I need to understand your style of fandom. Edited April 27 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Nice snag Vargas ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Nice snag Vargas ! Join us in the game thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Nice hitting Robert and Quero 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I don't need your help to understand anything. If it's Sox related you hate on it . I cheer for the team to win despite how bad I know they are. You give me a laugh emoji for doing so. That's all I need to understand your style of fandom. Seems like you did, because you couldn’t comprehend that a low payroll team can still waste money on bad cheap veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 So do the rules regarding optioning Rule 5 guys follow them when they get placed on waivers and claimed like this? That is, are the Sox kind of locked into stashing Workman on the bench if they want to try to develop him longterm? Same goes for Vasil I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 10 minutes ago, Jake said: So do the rules regarding optioning Rule 5 guys follow them when they get placed on waivers and claimed like this? That is, are the Sox kind of locked into stashing Workman on the bench if they want to try to develop him longterm? Same goes for Vasil I suppose. The player has to stay "in the majors" for the entire season, and must spend at least 90 days on the active roster. The 2nd stipulation keeps teams from playing games with the IL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Seems like you did, because you couldn’t comprehend that a low payroll team can still waste money on bad cheap veterans. My last response to you on this matter. Look, maybe you don't comprehend it's a rebuild.All you are doing is wasting money on lousy players because you aren't going to win anything . What's your solution ? You cry about bad players like Maldonado or Nicky Lopez but I never hear you give Getz any credit for the development of Crochet when what he did last year was a major shock to most everyone in baseball. Maybe you chalk that up to Getz just being there or some such garbage BS. You aren't the only one to cheapen success or development stories by claiming it was all Crochet. It's always the FO fault when players don't develop but never get the credit for when they do. A 12th rounder like Baldwin , how often do you say nice pick and development story win for everyone involved. Who is everyone clamoring for right now on this board ? Tim Elko a 10th round draft pick . Cannon is a 3rd rounder. Davis Martin is a 14th rounder. Did most of us want Vaughn gone this off season. Yes we did. Waste of $6M right ? Easy to say but most GMs in the same position in a rebuild probably give their 1st round pick one last chance to turn it around. You wanted him gone , I wanted him gone. I don't know if Rowdy Tellez or anyone else available was any better or any cheaper but I'm sure you can tell me now that some other bum 1st baseman picked up cheaper and producing more than Vaughn at this current moment in time is out there for you to cherry pick with the great gift you have for hindsight. Sorry if I have trouble comprehending that every dollar you spend on a bunch bad players has to be a rousing success. Why didn't my $5M player do as good as that $2M guy that other team has . If you have some kind of magic formula to prevent injuries or to pick out the best bums to sign during a rebuild please enlighten me. Gaze into your crystal ball and tell me who to sign in the off season to minor league contracts and what to pay for the guys who you think should get MLB contracts. You couldn't do it any better .You wouldn't even come close.You don't have the resources to know every single player in the minors and majors.You'd never trade a minor leaguer. No rebuilding team should ever trade a young guy unless it's for another minor leaguer right ? I'm surprised I haven't heard you giving us status reports on the minor leaguers traded away last year or this off season. Are they not doing well enough for you to crow about how stupid Getz was to trade them ? Lord knows you love you some small sample size success stories to raise a stink about be it a cheap veteran pitcher who the Sox cut or some youngster he traded away who has a month of success in the minors. You're the king of turning molehills into mountains. You need a lot to go right to be great and a lot to go wrong to suck. It's not all based on the wisest of decisions. Luck is a huge factor especially when you're dealing with the worst players in baseball being the only ones you can sign because your owner this year decided to cut payroll even more than last year. So yeah I'm going to cut the GM some slack because he can't figure out which 20 bums are going to outperform the other 200 bums available. Who was your pick to sign during the Rule 5 draft ? Did you pick Shane Smith ? I know I didn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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