fathom Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Vaughn and Vargas would have been stars during the steroid era 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 I like that layered chain look from houser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I'm not saying I want Palacios on the team but I will concede that I can see how somebody could have talked themselves into wanting to give him a spin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 Nice play dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 9 minutes ago, Jake said: I'm not saying I want Palacios on the team but I will concede that I can see how somebody could have talked themselves into wanting to give him a spin https://www.mlb.com/video/the-palacios-brothers-host-a-free-clinic-in-new-york Apparently Josh and his brother Richie also run a baseball training center in NYC... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 11 minutes ago, fathom said: Vaughn and Vargas would have been stars during the steroid era I still vote that MLB gives teams that miss the playoffs a one-player steroid waiver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Vaughn and Vargas would have been stars during the steroid era New Statcast swing metrics look interesting for Vargas IMO. Meets the ball on the right part of the swing at an elite level despite having a pretty strong uppercut and hitting the ball way out in front of his body with a pull-oriented bat. Seems to achieve that via a relatively slow swing along with presumably some natural talent ("good hands") Vaughn a little more conventional "let the ball get deep, then swing slow and flat to maximize likelihood of solid contact." Well conventional in one sense but probably unconventional for a 1B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, Jake said: New Statcast swing metrics look interesting for Vargas IMO. Meets the ball on the right part of the swing at an elite level despite having a pretty strong uppercut and hitting the ball way out in front of his body with a pull-oriented bat. Seems to achieve that via a relatively slow swing along with presumably some natural talent ("good hands") Vaughn a little more conventional "let the ball get deep, then swing slow and flat to maximize likelihood of solid contact." Well conventional in one sense but probably unconventional for a 1B To me, it’s no surprise Vargas excelled last weekend with wind blowing out. He definitely doesn’t have prodigious power, but the quality contact has improved tremendously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Guess the Rangers have an abundance of pitching if they can't use either Houser or Dane Dunning...a bit ironic, he would be facing the Charlotte Knights right now if not for this last minute signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Damn his fielding has been rough lately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 So much for Vargas "excellent defense"....have to push it down to "above average/good/very good" with 7 errors now. That's quite a bit at 3B compared to SS/2B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Doogie with a great game !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 it's funny how much they are hyping up julio given he's regressed quite a bit in some ways. He was expected to be like a 280/350/500 guy not 250/300/420. His wRC+ has gone from elite to just above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 That went way, way farther than I expected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Extra note from new Statcast swing data: Quero is a major oddball so far. Swing pretty slow and he makes contact very deep into his body while standing further back in the box than almost anyone in the league. Not coincidentally, his bat is angled to the opposite field more than anyone else in the league at contact. While none of that may sound good, a lot of the guys on those extremes tend to be good hitters...but the specific combo from Quero would likely put a lid on just how good he can be. Not going to do a lot of power hitting if you're pushing everything off your back leg with a slow-moving bat. On the other hand, giving yourself all that time to see the pitch probably helps make better decisions. Edited May 21 by Jake 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 The universe hates Vaughn, holy hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Something to keep track of is Quero against RHP. He had huge splits last year, and it’s holding true in his short tenure here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 lol vaughn. that's what happens when you make the contact he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtom Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I have no faith that they can win a close game like this one, especially with the bullpen about to rear its ugly head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Quero pretty quietly all the way down to a 659 OPS. Robert/Vaughn Circus continues...at least Luis hit a ball hard, so there's that I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 8 minutes ago, Jake said: Extra note from new Statcast swing data: Quero is a major oddball so far. Swing pretty slow and he makes contact very deep into his body while standing further back in the box than almost anyone in the league. Not coincidentally, his bat is angled to the opposite field more than anyone else in the league at contact. While none of that may sound good, a lot of the guys on those extremes tend to be good hitters...but the specific combo from Quero would likely put a lid on just how good he can be. Not going to do a lot of power hitting if you're pushing everything off your back leg with a slow-moving bat. On the other hand, giving yourself all that time to see the pitch probably helps make better decisions. He needs to sell out for some more slug. With that said, your observations are awesome. Thanks for the information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, Tomtom said: I have no faith that they can win a close game like this one, especially with the bullpen about to rear its ugly head. we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Heck of a start by Houser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) So we essentially have Eisert, Booser and Leasure as the back-end right now....with Vasil over Castro now for 4/5 in the pen. Totally forgot about S.Wilson...so Eisert/Booser/Vasil/Leasure/S.Wilson B. Wilson/Shuster/Castro the back end Edited May 21 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tomtom said: I have no faith that they can win a close game like this one, especially with the bullpen about to rear its ugly head. don't worry, we have *checks notes* Brandon Eisert coming in Edited May 21 by DoUEvenShift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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