1 hour ago, tray said:

77 Hitmen:

1. You said that the first thing Ishbia should do is to fire everyone in the White Sox organization (your words) when he gets majority ownership. Do you still feel that way? Everyone??...Getz, Venable, all coaches, scouts, minor league personnel.,,,how about Gene Honda, Sod father, lol?

2. JR went down to Springfield with and at the behest of Related Development (developers of Auchi's 78 parcel). He did not go down on his own accord to actively seek a new stadium for the obvious reason that he will no longer be Chairman in 10-20 years when the White Sox might need a new stadium. A possible new stadium in the distant future is Ishbia's business, not Reinsdorfs. Instead, JR is all about running the organization now and winning while he is still the Chair. Oh yea, and making big money because he is "greedy" unlike Ishbia (rotflmfao). Naw, Ishbia is more like Warren Buffet ...uh no.

3. Once a realistic, sensible plan is proposed by Ishbia (and we have not seen one yet) , Sox fans should be able to chime in. After all this is their team in their City. Until then Ramble on

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNRFX62Ujc&list=RDGGNRFX62Ujc&start_radio=1

This is 100% demonstrably false. He 100% went down there and asked for money for a new stadium at the 78. You have zero evidence to back up anything you are saying here, in fact the reporting all centers around Jerry asking for stadium money.

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

It is obvious to anyone who isn't an ostrich that this is GOING to happen. If they are already this deep into landswaps and projects, they have a plan.

Most likely, yes. I'm not ready to say it's definitely going to happen. Obviously Ishbia is lining things up to make this happen, but there's still some hurdles to overcome. The Amtrak yard purchase needs to be finalized and Amtrak needs to move their maintenance yard before it can happen. Amtrak has said they've wanted to move their maintenance yard, but that plan sounds complicated and could still fall through.

There's also the question of financing of a new ballpark, but everyone involved surely knows at this point that a publicly financed stadium is a non-starter. Given the Ishbias wealth and moves to secure RRIF loans for this project, it's becoming clear that their intent is for a privately-financed ballpark as opposed to waiting for a handout to ISFA (which ain't gonna happen).

4 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Most likely, yes. I'm not ready to say it's definitely going to happen. Obviously Ishbia is lining things up to make this happen, but there's still some hurdles to overcome. The Amtrak yard purchase needs to be finalized and Amtrak needs to move their maintenance yard before it can happen. Amtrak has said they've wanted to move their maintenance yard, but that plan sounds complicated and could still fall through.

There's also the question of financing of a new ballpark, but everyone involved surely knows at this point that a publicly financed stadium is a non-starter. Given the Ishbias wealth and moves to secure RRIF loans for this project, it's becoming clear that their intent is for a privately-financed ballpark as opposed to waiting for a handout to ISFA (which ain't gonna happen).

The Sox are somewhere around a 2nd to 3rd standard deviation around leaving 35th and Shields. They do not want to be there, and are making moves behind the scenes to get out. Even this specific project doesn't happen, the White Sox have a vision, and are looking to leave.

22 hours ago, BrittBurnsFan said:

Dallas Mavericks and Dallas Stars leaving American Airlines Center to build their own (separate) arenas so each can build entertainment complexes on the land around the new arenas! Ishbia knows this is a path toward greater profit! It is going to happen on the Southside...just wish we knew more details. I get why we don't...but doesn't stop me from wanting more info!

https://therealdeal.com/texas/2026/06/15/stars-ceo-says-tear-down-american-airlines-center/

This is the new economic reality in pro sports and something that all professional male sports teams in Chicago except for the Sox are in various stages of getting done. Cubs (done), Bulls/Blackhawks (underway), Fire (underway) and yes eventually the Bears somewhere.

Ishbia is still in his 40s and he and his brother are immensely wealthy. He isn't buying the Sox only to keep them at a stadium surrounded by parking lots for the next 30 years. I just hope he hires the best and brightest architects and engineers (people who will closely study what has worked and what hasn't at other MLB parks) to make sure they get the design of any new ballpark right this time.

Mayor Johnson proposes a $425M TIF subsidy for the 78.

Chicago Sun-Times

Mayor Johnson proposes $425M TIF subsidy for The 78

Chicago Fire FC owner Joe Mansueto has been widely praised for bankrolling his own $750 million soccer stadium on the South Loop parcel known as The 78. But taxpayers would be subsidizing that develop

"The roster of TIF-eligible infrastructure projects includes construction of a 1,200-space underground parking garage that would be used for soccer games, concerts and other stadium-related events, and as a platform for an open-air plaza and future high-rise development on the site.

The breakdown includes $199 million for public structures, plazas and open space; $104 million for road infrastructure along LaSalle, 13th, 14th and 15th Streets; $11 million for Clark Street improvements; $30 million for river wall improvements along the south branch of the Chicago River; $8 million for Roosevelt Road and $34 million for Metra improvements."

8 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Mayor Johnson proposes a $425M TIF subsidy for the 78.

Chicago Sun-Times

Mayor Johnson proposes $425M TIF subsidy for The 78

Chicago Fire FC owner Joe Mansueto has been widely praised for bankrolling his own $750 million soccer stadium on the South Loop parcel known as The 78. But taxpayers would be subsidizing that develop

"The roster of TIF-eligible infrastructure projects includes construction of a 1,200-space underground parking garage that would be used for soccer games, concerts and other stadium-related events, and as a platform for an open-air plaza and future high-rise development on the site.

The breakdown includes $199 million for public structures, plazas and open space; $104 million for road infrastructure along LaSalle, 13th, 14th and 15th Streets; $11 million for Clark Street improvements; $30 million for river wall improvements along the south branch of the Chicago River; $8 million for Roosevelt Road and $34 million for Metra improvements."

All of which would be useful to the White Sox project in the area, or on this site.

archive.ph

Related Midwest eyes $425M TIF subsidy for the 78 - Crain...

The developer’s vision still includes a new stadium for the Chicago White Sox on the southern portion of the 78, though Bailey declined to comment on any active pursuit to lure the Major League Baseball team to the site. The Sox have said they are interested in building a new ballpark on that parcel as they stare down a 2029 lease expiration at Rate Field in Bridgeport.

Interesting that Related still prefers a dual-stadium development.

Mansueto has said publicly in recent months that he likes the idea of a multi-stadium hub at the 78 that makes the entire site more active year-round and that he remains open to discussions with the Sox about sharing the campus.

Is this new? I thought the sentiment from Mansueto was that he wanted the 78 all for himself.

For now, the prospect of a two-stadium development doesn’t have support from Ald. Pat Dowell, whose 3rd Ward includes the 78.

Expectations of traffic congestion at the site are “a real reason not to consider a second stadium there,” Dowell said during a Crain’s event in April about the Fire stadium plan.

Still, Dowell left the door open in September when the Fire stadium won approval from the Chicago Plan Commission. She told the panel at the time that the rezoning amendment for the stadium includes language ensuring only one stadium can be constructed at the 78 “without coming back to (the Plan Commission) and the community.”

Overall, this is still good news for the Sox. Having options for both the 78 proper and Amtrak’s 14th St. yard is a good place to be in.