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6/14 Sox @ Rangers, Vasil v. deGrom - 3:05pm


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Just now, WestEddy said:

Vasil is Rule 5 and cannot be sent down without passing through waivers. 

Vasil holds his own in the bigs. There's no reason to send him down. 

right, but he was initially on the Mets, then selected by the Phillies and traded to Tampa Bay. Tampa put him on waivers and the Sox claimed him. Unique path to be sure. It's a different situation than Shane Smith who would've returned to Milwaukee if the Sox 'waived' him. The question is simply: do the "Rule 5 rules" even apply to him? I stated it was my opinion that he's doing well and the MLB team "needs" him, I'm just wondering about the rule. At the same time, I'm speculating if it isn't better for future purposes when the team is actually good to try him as a starter. I think so, but maybe being a reliever for a terrible team doesn't preclude one from being a starting pitcher in the future. If they 'could' send him down, you wonder why they'd try to do it for Clevinger and not Vasil. You wonder a similar thing about Grant Taylor, but he might just straight up be a reliever.

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7 minutes ago, nrockway said:

right, but he was initially on the Mets, then selected by the Phillies and traded to Tampa Bay. Tampa put him on waivers and the Sox claimed him. Unique path to be sure. It's a different situation than Shane Smith who would've returned to Milwaukee if the Sox 'waived' him. The question is simply: do the "Rule 5 rules" even apply to him? I stated it was my opinion that he's doing well and the MLB team "needs" him, I'm just wondering about the rule. At the same time, I'm speculating if it isn't better for future purposes when the team is actually good to try him as a starter. I think so, but maybe being a reliever for a terrible team doesn't preclude one from being a starting pitcher in the future. If they 'could' send him down, you wonder why they'd try to do it for Clevinger and not Vasil. You wonder a similar thing about Grant Taylor, but he might just straight up be a reliever.

Rule 5 restrictions carry over through waivers, trades, etc. Basically they apply to all 29 teams other than the original  until fulfilled. That's why he was on waivers to begin with; Tampa was restricted from sending him down even though PHI was the team to actually draft him.

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