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An ominous future...

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1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said:

I think the whole plan is JR will play bad guy and then after turn the keys over to Ishibia having done a solid for all the owners.

Been saying that since the deal was announced.

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    Ken should go back to staring down a camera man that tripped. Fucking clown.

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    Maybe if I had a shred of hope of the Sox being good again in the next 3 or 4 years (we already have a 6 page thread about that), I'd actually share in this "ominous" feeling.  As it stands, I'm not g

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Again for those who don't know at one time (1981) JR was against any type of labor impasse/work stoppage.

When things got bad and baseball was in the process of losing two months of the 1981 season he was considered one of the "moderate six" owners and was actually quoted as saying the impasse was "stupid" (direct quote) and "we should settle it." (direct quote.)

13 years later he was willing to neuter his own teams chance to get to a World Series in a quest for a salary cap.

How things change.

You have Nightengale also saying he’s heard from some owners that the 2027 season might not happen. Good times

13 minutes ago, fathom said:

You have Nightengale also saying he’s heard from some owners that the 2027 season might not happen. Good times

At least that would wipe out Castillo’s contract. 🤣

58 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

At least that would wipe out Castillo’s contract. 🤣

And Benintendi's

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4 hours ago, fathom said:

You have Nightengale also saying he’s heard from some owners that the 2027 season might not happen. Good times

Certainly possible. All depends on which owners start putting pressure on the others to settle as they have always done in the past, and how soon it happens. I say that because I can't see the MLBPA breaking ranks on the salary cap demand.

After the Dodgers added Tarik Skubal to arguably the most loaded roster in baseball history, the cries for major financial changes to the sport grew even louder. The relatively light package L.A. surrendered to land the two-time Cy Young winner exposed the fact that the Dodgers can hoard prospects due to their ability to outbid everyone for major league talent on the open market. That allows them to keep and grow their young players and deal from that depth.

The chances we got a full season in 2027 were low, and only got lower as the Dodgers continued to expose the built-in advantages they hold over everyone else in baseball. It should be a long offseason. —R.P

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Owners want a cap to increase value of their franchises:

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Media rights won't be enough to bring MLB owners to negot...

Losing media rights revenue will not be enough to bring MLB owners to the negotiating table during a lockout.
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Ken Rosenthal, on the big picture: “The dirty little secret of a salary cap and floor system is that it would not guarantee small-market teams success. Many would need to develop more of a killer instinct, an instinct the Dodgers demonstrate time and again.”

On 8/2/2026 at 11:46 AM, fathom said:

You have Nightengale also saying he’s heard from some owners that the 2027 season might not happen. Good times

Can’t imagine who fed him that nugget

49 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Ken Rosenthal, on the big picture: “The dirty little secret of a salary cap and floor system is that it would not guarantee small-market teams success. Many would need to develop more of a killer instinct, an instinct the Dodgers demonstrate time and again.”

"Ken Rosenthal" and "big" in the same sentence is confusing me. Little Ken knows how to keep his 'sources' happy with propagandistic articles like this. I think pretty much every baseball fan knows why teams like the Rays and Guardians are consistently good despite low payrolls, but financial parity simply does produce a more competitive environment. Frankly, this whole idea goes out the window if MLB contracts were structured like they are in every other sport, ie it takes less than a decade for a player to start earning his market value. The small market teams can keep up at the moment because the best players in the game haven't had a chance to reach free agency. That doesn't make it acceptable that 2 or 3 teams are the only options for the top tier free agents. That's been a plague on this sport since the early days when every good player just went to the Yankees.

Why does it feel like every time in my life the Sox are ready to be awesome there is a lockout of some kind, i.e. 1994, 2020, 2027? Baseball has overtaken the NBA in popularity during this supposed crisis, are the owners really willing to piss that away? I sure hope not.

5 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said:

Why does it feel like every time in my life the Sox are ready to be awesome there is a lockout of some kind, i.e. 1994, 2020, 2027? Baseball has overtaken the NBA in popularity during this supposed crisis, are the owners really willing to piss that away? I sure hope not.

I don't think so. I also don't think there will be a work stoppage

1 minute ago, kitekrazy1 said:

I don't think so. I also don't think there will be a work stoppage

I'm not sure of the exact figures, but there's been a slew of articles about baseball ratings overtaking the NBA recently, or at least closing the gap. A stoppage would likely wash most of that away for years.

29 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said:

Why does it feel like every time in my life the Sox are ready to be awesome there is a lockout of some kind, i.e. 1994, 2020, 2027? Baseball has overtaken the NBA in popularity during this supposed crisis, are the owners really willing to piss that away? I sure hope not.

And don’t forget our owner is usually front and center for the owners on the other side of the table

1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said:

And don’t forget our owner is usually front and center for the owners on the other side of the table

I have a bottle of Lagavulin reserved for the day I read that obituary.

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46 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said:

Why does it feel like every time in my life the Sox are ready to be awesome there is a lockout of some kind, i.e. 1994, 2020, 2027? Baseball has overtaken the NBA in popularity during this supposed crisis, are the owners really willing to piss that away? I sure hope not.

1981 is also included although you may not have been around.

And yes the owners are willing to piss that away.

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Author sheds MLB for claiming no salary cap is why they have blackouts:

"What does this have to do with TV blackouts? As part of the league’s public relations campaign to gin up support for the cap/floor system, MLB has tied implementing a salary cap to eliminating TV blackouts. The suggestion is that the only way MLB could eliminate blackouts is by implementing a salary cap.

This, however, is a complete farce. Blackouts directly reflect the media deals the league and its teams have struck with their broadcast partners. Regional sports networks (and now streamers) will pay a premium for exclusivity, which is only possible with blackouts. Similarly, national networks will pay a premium to ensure the games they air aren’t also available on regional sports networks, which would cannibalize their audience.

In other words, blackouts exist only because the league and its teams want to make more money. It has nothing to do with the players objecting to a salary cap."

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MLBPA executive director Bruce Meyer says the league could end blackouts whenever they want instead of blaming players.

When elephants fight, it's the grass that gets trampled. or as Thucydides’ said "The strong do what they can and the weaker suffer what they must." Millionaires fighting with billionaires and the people who will lose the most, the fans, will passionately take sides, instead of banding together to tell both sides to f*** off.

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