Boopa1219 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 10 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Yelich is well past his 2019-20 prime, has had lots of injuries and Miz was barely in the Top 100 and could blow out an elbow at any time, but Chourio really could be great if he can stay healthy. Still, they have Jesus Made, Pena, Payne, Pratt, Henderson. You can make the argument that they’re the most loaded organization in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 6 hours ago, zisk said: Not sure I agree. Taylor Schultz or Hagen Smith could be top 100 if one of them puts it together. My OP was talking specifically about position players, sorry for not making that clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 10 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Yelich is well past his 2019-20 prime, has had lots of injuries and Miz was barely in the Top 100 and could blow out an elbow at any time, but Chourio really could be great if he can stay healthy. Yelich is still somewhere between a 2.5 - 3.5 bWAR player Once this season comes to a close, the White Sox will most likely finish the last 3 seasons with exactly 1 offensive player having more than 2 bWAR and that was Robert in 2023! Tauchman has exactly 2 right now, so he MAY hold it, but either way this is absolutely pathetic. Edited August 14 by T R U 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 8 hours ago, hogan873 said: Seeing PCA at #7 is crazy considering he's had about 3/4 of a season of success. Makes me wonder if Colson's improvement and MLB promotion had happened at the beginning of the season if he'd be in the top 100. He's also just been atrocious against LHP this year. Rocking a .190/.219/.408 slash line in 157 PA's. Doesn't mean he won't get better, but that's not something that screams "7th best player in baseball" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 42 minutes ago, Tony said: He's also just been atrocious against LHP this year. Rocking a .190/.219/.408 slash line in 157 PA's. Doesn't mean he won't get better, but that's not something that screams "7th best player in baseball" He is only 23 and has an .809 OPS, 27 HR, and 30 SB with a quarter of the season left to play. He’s been worth 6 bWAR. I don’t think he’s the 7th best player in baseball right now but he sure looks to be on a star trajectory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He is only 23 and has an .809 OPS, 27 HR, and 30 SB with a quarter of the season left to play. He’s been worth 6 bWAR. I don’t think he’s the 7th best player in baseball right now but he sure looks to be on a star trajectory. He also has 3 hits this month. There has been a pretty dramatic fall off since the break, he does not look the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 16 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: He also has 3 hits this month. There has been a pretty dramatic fall off since the break, he does not look the same He was also awful to start the season before April, with 4 good months in between. At 23, he’s only going to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) It'll be Braden aka neo Tim Raines Edited August 14 by nrockway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He was also awful to start the season before April, with 4 good months in between. At 23, he’s only going to get better. Doesn't always work like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Doesn't always work like that. Of course, just look at Sox positional prospects over the years. 🤣 Of course, Vaughn for example never put up numbers like PCA. None of them really have until Colson so far. Edited August 14 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 14 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He is only 23 and has an .809 OPS, 27 HR, and 30 SB with a quarter of the season left to play. He’s been worth 6 bWAR. I don’t think he’s the 7th best player in baseball right now but he sure looks to be on a star trajectory. Given I quoted his LH splits, probably a safe assumption I’m familiar with his overall numbers. He has put together a great first half of 2025. He earned that. In the second half, he’s slashing .205/.239/.398. He’s a rookie, I expect to see continued growth and any team would be fortunate to have him, as he plays a great CF. But I’m not ready to call him a Top 10 player in the league after a half season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Tony said: Given I quoted his LH splits, probably a safe assumption I’m familiar with his overall numbers. He has put together a great first half of 2025. He earned that. In the second half, he’s slashing .205/.239/.398. He’s a rookie, I expect to see continued growth and any team would be fortunate to have him, as he plays a great CF. But I’m not ready to call him a Top 10 player in the league after a half season. We'll see what happens, but he wouldn't be the 1st rookie to supernova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 31 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: We'll see what happens, but he wouldn't be the 1st rookie to supernova. He had a phenomenal 1st half, but I was just blown away it took that long for the league to adjust. You can't be rocking a 5+K/BB (now up to 6), be dead pull and unable to touch lefties and put up anything close to what 's he did without severe regression. It's hard to take his defense out, but if he can't do better vs. LH's he really needs to be platooned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 18 hours ago, Tony said: He's also just been atrocious against LHP this year. Rocking a .190/.219/.408 slash line in 157 PA's. Doesn't mean he won't get better, but that's not something that screams "7th best player in baseball" I think if this is a breakdown of for this season only, it's hard to argue with PCA's placement. If we're projecting out, I think he's a really volatile player because of his bat. He nearly leads the league in chase rate, and he doesn't hit lefties. If I had to put a comp on him, it would be Andruw Jones. Great athlete, incredible defender, great power and speed but the hit tool and etc will waiver from year to year with him in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 3 hours ago, Tony said: Given I quoted his LH splits, probably a safe assumption I’m familiar with his overall numbers. He has put together a great first half of 2025. He earned that. In the second half, he’s slashing .205/.239/.398. He’s a rookie, I expect to see continued growth and any team would be fortunate to have him, as he plays a great CF. But I’m not ready to call him a Top 10 player in the league after a half season. Agreed. The other guy on their team who should normally be in the top 10 has tanked offensively as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 32 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I think if this is a breakdown of for this season only, it's hard to argue with PCA's placement. If we're projecting out, I think he's a really volatile player because of his bat. He nearly leads the league in chase rate, and he doesn't hit lefties. If I had to put a comp on him, it would be Andruw Jones. Great athlete, incredible defender, great power and speed but the hit tool and etc will waiver from year to year with him in my opinion. That would be a helluva get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That would be a helluva get. Can hate on the Cubs all we want, but there simply aren't a lot of 23 year olds in the games history putting up 6+ WAR seasons. The only player I can think of in my lifetime who had similar elite success at a really young age in the outfield only to get worse with age year over year was BJ/Melvin Upton, and he never had a 6 WAR season. PCA has more power than BJ too. Similar profiles though outside of handedness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Agreed. The other guy on their team who should normally be in the top 10 has tanked offensively as well. Not sure I'd call a 135 wRC+ tanking offensively. I'd still absolutely take Tucker over PCA as I imagine most GM's around the league would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 11 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Not sure I'd call a 135 wRC+ tanking offensively. I'd still absolutely take Tucker over PCA as I imagine most GM's around the league would. There is something going on with Tucker. He's got a .257 SLG in the second half of this season. He's hit 1 HR since July 1st. I think he's hurt, but with the amount of time he missed last year, he didn't want to miss more time this year so has played through so he doesn't get the "injury proned" tagged slapped on him before FA, but his lack of production since July has also probably hurt his value in the market. Probably not a ton, but he simply hasn't been very good since about July 1. Still time to turn it around, but they're running out of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 1 minute ago, Tony said: There is something going on with Tucker. He's got a .257 SLG in the second half of this season. He's hit 1 HR since July 1st. I think he's hurt, but with the amount of time he missed last year, he didn't want to miss more time this year so has played through so he doesn't get the "injury proned" tagged slapped on him before FA, but his lack of production since July has also probably hurt his value in the market. Probably not a ton, but he simply hasn't been very good since about July 1. Still time to turn it around, but they're running out of games. He's always been a really streaky player. In 2023 he had a stretch in May/June period I believe where he had an OPS under 700 for 40ish games. 2022 he had a very similar July/August slump -- in fact his rolling wRC+ in that period is almost identical to the one now. He usually either starts slow out of the gate, or slows down mid season. He's finished seasons strong though throughout his career so I wouldn't be shocked to see him get on a heater soon enough. Oddly enough July has been the worst month of his career with April coming up second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Can hate on the Cubs all we want, but there simply aren't a lot of 23 year olds in the games history putting up 6+ WAR seasons. The only player I can think of in my lifetime who had similar elite success at a really young age in the outfield only to get worse with age year over year was BJ/Melvin Upton, and he never had a 6 WAR season. PCA has more power than BJ too. Similar profiles though outside of handedness. Nah, I know PCA turns off a lot of people with his show, but we'd be jerking him off if he was a White Sox. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Not sure I'd call a 135 wRC+ tanking offensively. I'd still absolutely take Tucker over PCA as I imagine most GM's around the league would. The difference being PCA is cheap with six years of control, and Tucker is about to cost like half a billion dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Nah, I know PCA turns off a lot of people with his show, but we'd be jerking him off if he was a White Sox. He does seem like a total chode with his hair dye and attitude, but yeah. I’d probably dislike his personality but like him for the stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 You guys got PCA hot again. 3 for 3 with a double and an RBI today. OPS up to .820. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 41 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You guys got PCA hot again. 3 for 3 with a double and an RBI today. OPS up to .820. And cost them the game by not knowing how to slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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