48 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I think at this point, you buy him out. If you want to bring him back, givehim something similar to this year, maybe a little less since he couldn’t answer the bell. Who knows what this latest problem is. That could make it a no brainer.

Yep, this.

They have made a lot of worse moves than this one.  He was worth the risk if he could have been flipped like Feddee last year and he seemed like a decent enough guy. 

Much better approach than the idiotic signing of Clevenger. 

 

 

8 hours ago, Harry Chappas said:

They have made a lot of worse moves than this one.  He was worth the risk if he could have been flipped like Feddee last year and he seemed like a decent enough guy. 

Much better approach than the idiotic signing of Clevenger. 

 

 

the habitual losing formula............trying to find the less smelly item out of a dumpster

8 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

the habitual losing formula............trying to find the less smelly item out of a dumpster

Sure, if Perez had been able to take the ball every fifth start and amass a 2.5-3.0 fWAR season already by the middle of the summer.

Alek Manoah just got DFA'd, working his way back from TJ. Still a couple arb years left.

Worth a flyer instead of (or in addition to?) the Perez option?

12 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Alek Manoah just got DFA'd, working his way back from TJ. Still a couple arb years left.

Worth a flyer instead of (or in addition to?) the Perez option?

f*** it

1 hour ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Alek Manoah just got DFA'd, working his way back from TJ. Still a couple arb years left.

Worth a flyer instead of (or in addition to?) the Perez option?

Manoah was a mess before TJ, but totally worth a shot. 

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5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Manoah was a mess before TJ, but totally worth a shot. 

Is it his 2nd arb year?  That's like 6 to 8 million, and if we only have 10 to spend...

Perez was a bit risky as he hadn’t been good since 2022.  In the end, he had a good year, but injury. 

Houser was a no-risk signee; pitched well.  Then Getz basically  gave him away (maybe one of those rule 5 eligible pitchers will do something).

Civale, acquired for nothing that the Sox were using, had an “innings-eater” type of 2025 with the Sox and they either couldn’t or wouldn’t flip him.  

All 3 ended up meeting or exceeding reasonable expectations.  But the Sox have zilch to show for it.   Can’t squander 3/3.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Is it his 2nd arb year?  That's like 6 to 8 million, and if we only have 10 to spend...

Just not sure where else they would really spend that money. Think we’re pretty much looking at next year’s team right now.

41 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Just not sure where else they would really spend that money. Think we’re pretty much looking at next year’s team right now.

I'm guessing you are exactly correct. 

11 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

I'm guessing you are exactly correct. 

A cheap starter or two, a cheap reliever or two, maybe a cheap bench piece. But think on the position player side (assuming no trades), all these guys will be one the roster:

1. Kyle Teel C

2. Edgar Quero C

3. Colson Montgomery SS/3B

4. Chase Meidroth 2B/SS

5. Miguel Vargas 3B/1B

6. Lenyn Sosa 1B/2B/3B

7. Brooks Baldwin IF/OF (semi-regular role)

8. Luis Robert Jr CF (won't be traded)

9. Andrew Benintendi LF (won't be traded)

10. Mike Tauchman RF (cheap veteran presence, could possibly be traded)

11. Korey Lee C (if they commit to Teel/Quero getting regular at bats at DH and/or other positions, they could carry a 3rd catcher)

12. Corey Julks OF (this is a spot they can a cheap RHH bat for the bench)

13. Curtis Mead IF (not much room for him but he could be a bench piece; also another spot to add a cheap veteran back up, preferably one that can play great D at SS)

I was less confident about those last 3 spots. Think I'm leaning they will go this route with a year of uncertainty coming than actual spending and trying to be good.