3 pitch inning? never mind. 6 pitches to the top of the order 🤯

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by nrockway

"they call him Christmas because he smiles a lot"

or could it be because his name is Noel...wtf Schriff

One run in 2 nights ain't going to win many games.

2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Schriffen just said Ramirez is looking to be the first in Cleveland to have 3 30 home run seasons. I believe Albert Belle accomplished that and then some.

probably Rocky Colavito as well.

2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

In all fairness the team we have seen since July 1st is much better than the team we had on opening day, let’s hope they can build on the second half success going to 2026 and they sign some quality free agents.

😆😄Remember JR still runs the show.

23rd time this year the Sox wasted pretty good pitching losing the game despite holding an opponent to three runs or less.

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by Lip Man 1

3 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Schriffen just said Ramirez is looking to be the first in Cleveland to have 3 30 home run seasons. I believe Albert Belle accomplished that and then some.

Manny Ramirez had 5 and Thome had 7. How does that even get through fact checkers lol

11 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Schriffen just said Ramirez is looking to be the first in Cleveland to have 3 30 home run seasons. I believe Albert Belle accomplished that and then some.

Thome did it like....7 straight seasons??

10 hours ago, nrockway said:

"they call him Christmas because he smiles a lot"

or could it be because his name is Noel...wtf Schriff

I laughed out loud when I heard him say that.  

9 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

😆😄Remember JR still runs the show.

He has to do something, we have a good core of young players to build on. The best thing of course would be for him to bite the bullet and sell out to Ishbia.

12 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

probably Rocky Colavito as well.

Colovito had 41 homers in 1958 and 1959 and then in one of the worst trades in history former White Sox GM Frank Lane traded Colovito to Detroit for singles hitter Harvey Kuenn, fans in Cleveland almost rioted when hearing of the trade. In the next 3 seasons in Detroit Rocky hit 35, 45 and 37 homers.
Larry Doby came close in the mid 50s having the middle season with 29 homers.

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by The Mighty Mite

Sox now predicted at 62.3-99.7 at fangraphs.

I watched part of this game and every time schriffen said Messick my brain followed with "JAR JAR BINKS" and pissed myself off

17 hours ago, nrockway said:

Once Sosa gets to two strikes he is simply doomed. He'll swing at anything. He has to correct this somehow.

But at one point this year he was the best hitter in MLB with an 0-2 count.

18 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

But at one point this year he was the best hitter in MLB with an 0-2 count.

Is that right? Must've been before the scouting report said "throw the ball 10 feet off the plate and he'll swing at it". 

40 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

But at one point this year he was the best hitter in MLB with an 0-2 count.

 

16 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Is that right? Must've been before the scouting report said "throw the ball 10 feet off the plate and he'll swing at it". 

He's still 2nd at the moment

https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask?q=most+hits+with+0-2+count

20 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Is that right? Must've been before the scouting report said "throw the ball 10 feet off the plate and he'll swing at it". 

The eye test isn't everything. 

5 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

 

He's still 2nd at the moment

https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask?q=most+hits+with+0-2+count

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=sosale01&year=2025&t=b

after 0-2: .525 OPS/38% k rate

after 1-2: .541 OPS/46.5% k rate

after 2-2: .639 OPS/37.5% k rate

compare to Vargas

.529 OPS/42%

.726 OPS/30.5%

.806 OPS/26%

 

if he had any kind of an eye, he's well above .800 OPS on the season

15 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

 

He's still 2nd at the moment

https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask?q=most+hits+with+0-2+count

He does look a little tired at the minute. They might be giving him some  extra work on playing first base. I’d like to know what their plan is with, I think they want him at 1B and it pissed me off that they had him at 2B last night as Monty started the game on the bench. 

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by The Mighty Mite

10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

The eye test isn't everything. 

thanks, peanut gallery. neither is hits when the idea is that he doesn't walk and strikes out...you could just look at the OPS of players on that other list that was posted. or the stats I just posted. Vargas isn't some world beater and if Sosa performed like him, he's much better. This is also not considering the location of pitches. Maybe you could look that up.

8 minutes ago, nrockway said:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=sosale01&year=2025&t=b

after 0-2: .525 OPS/38% k rate

after 1-2: .541 OPS/46.5% k rate

after 2-2: .639 OPS/37.5% k rate

compare to Vargas

.529 OPS/42%

.726 OPS/30.5%

.806 OPS/26%

 

if he had any kind of an eye, he's well above .800 OPS on the season

here are the splits based on count

if you look at the sOPS+ (whether you use the specific count or after a count like you did) he is well above league average in all 2 strike outcomes. Especially at 0-2 and 2-2.

Edited September 14, 2025Sep 14 by DoUEvenShift

10 minutes ago, nrockway said:

thanks, peanut gallery. neither is hits when the idea is that he doesn't walk and strikes out...you could just look at the OPS of players on that other list that was posted. or the stats I just posted. Vargas isn't some world beater and if Sosa performed like him, he's much better. This is also not considering the location of pitches. Maybe you could look that up.

Chill out man

9 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

here are the splits based on count

if you look at the sOPS+ (whether you use the specific count or after a count like you did) he is well above league average in all 2 strike outcomes. Especially at 0-2 and 2-2.

better than anticipated for sure. also no season split data on this as far as I can tell to suggest that pitchers just throw him junk now in these situations. you might also expect a trend line from 0-2 to 3-2 as there seems to be with Vargas (just as an example).

 

5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Chill out man

literally just one time offer something to a discussion that isn't s%*# talk

11 minutes ago, nrockway said:

better than anticipated for sure. also no season split data on this as far as I can tell to suggest that pitchers just throw him junk now in these situations. you might also expect a trend line from 0-2 to 3-2 as there seems to be with Vargas (just as an example).

 

literally just one time offer something to a discussion that isn't s%*# talk

You literally started name calling over an obvious comment.   Stats exist because personal bias doesn't always work.