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Are the Red Sox cheating?

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4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

How big of an outlier is a team that has lost 324 games in the last 3 years being in a playoff position?

How many 84 win teams have made the playoffs?

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1 minute ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

How many 84 win teams have made the playoffs?

All of them that were in first place.

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

How big of an outlier is a team that has lost 324 games in the last 3 years being in a playoff position?

The Orioles did this just a few years ago. They lost 333 games the 3 (full) seasons before jumping to basically the same pace we’re at right now.

3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

How big of an outlier is a team that has lost 324 games in the last 3 years being in a playoff position?

The 2011, 2012, and 2013 Astros lost 324 games. The 2014 team wasn't great but markedly improved. The 2015 team made it to the LDS and lost.

The 2012, 2013 and 2014 Cubs lost 286 games then made it to and lost the LCS the next year.

The 2017, 2018 and 2019 White Sox lost 284 games then made it to the Wild Card the next year and lost.

I don't think the 2026 White Sox are an outlier at all, given the statistical proof above and that year, rebuilds when done right are proven to lead to successful seasons. And that's cherry picked examples in this century alone.

I know you're finding it ridiculous that we are all pondering this possibility, but this ain't the gotcha you think it is.

Edited by Southwest Sider

7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

All of them that were in first place.

How many is that?

16 minutes ago, Southwest Sider said:

The 2011, 2012, and 2013 Astros lost 324 games. The 2014 team wasn't great but markedly improved. The 2015 team made it to the LDS and lost.

The 2012, 2013 and 2014 Cubs lost 286 games then made it to and lost the LCS the next year.

The 2017, 2018 and 2019 White Sox lost 284 games then made it to the Wild Card the next year and lost.

I don't think the 2026 White Sox are an outlier at all, given the statistical proof above and that year, rebuilds when done right are proven to lead to successful seasons. And that's cherry picked examples in this century alone.

I know you're finding it ridiculous that we are all pondering this possibility, but this ain't the gotcha you think it is.

2013 Red Sox went from a 69 win team to World Series champs in a single season. This is easy

49 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

You think a playoff pace is in character for a team that has averaged 108 losses a season for the last 3 years?

Doggy, you're the only one surprised by this

Strange thread though. Giving 'Mitch McConnell is actually dead' vibes.

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