June 27, 200421 yr Alright. First i might get killed for this but Reed is jus hitting 279 right not in AAA. But maybe his great year last year was a somewhat fluke. Now it kills me to lose Miguel Olivo. However Ben Davis is not horrible (2 years ago we were all dying to trade for him from the Padres. THIS IS THE ERA Leader in the AL come on guys.
June 27, 200421 yr Well im going to miss my fav player in Olivo. But as fans, we prayed for Freddy, and what did we get? Freddy, no more, no less. Cant complain. If we sign Freddy long term, this trade will be well worth it. Now we just need a catcher.
June 27, 200421 yr I do not like the fact that we traded Olivio he is a future all star catcher, if we sign Garcia long term maybe I will like this trade but for now I do not like it.
June 27, 200421 yr f*** no f*** no f*** no f*** no Stupid bastard cheap motherf***ers........f*** YOU, JR. Miguel is a f***ing stud and Reed too???? There better be a randy johnson inside Freddy Garcia. f***
June 27, 200421 yr That's the only thing making me kind of iffy on the trade. I hate losing Olivo. I hate it.
June 27, 200421 yr Historically teams with everyday catchers are far more likely to make the playoffs...just thought I would throw that in.
June 27, 200421 yr Olivo AND Reed is the key. Also Micheal Morse is a good SS in our system too. Like I said before we better be getting Estrada (doubt we will) out of the Atl deal or this will hurt. I bet that Olivo and Reed are going to be FUTURE SOX KILLERS.
June 27, 200421 yr Olivo AND Reed is the key. Also Micheal Morse is a good SS in our system too. Like I said before we better be getting Estrada (doubt we will) out of the Atl deal or this will hurt. I bet that Olivo and Reed are going to be FUTURE SOX KILLERS. I know you were big on Reed, but he still doesn't scare me. Reed's still only a "prospect." However, Olivo was the real deal; he's easily the best defensive catcher in the game, and his offensive numbers were coming in nicely.
June 27, 200421 yr I like this trade. Sox needed a big pitcher and they got it. Yes they overpaid a bit but they had to I think in this instance. Everyone was trying to get Garcia... and the Sox got him. I wish Olivo the best of luck. He was awesome for the Sox.
June 27, 200421 yr I hit Alright, but I like it. We needed another starter, and Garcia was the best starter out on the block.
June 27, 200421 yr Well im going to miss my fav player in Olivo. But as fans, we prayed for Freddy, and what did we get? Freddy, no more, no less. Cant complain. If we sign Freddy long term, this trade will be well worth it. Now we just need a catcher. That's what's gonna determine whether or not this is a good deal or not. If Garcia walks after this season then I'm gonna blow my top but if he is successful here and stays a while then I'm cool with it.
June 27, 200421 yr I picked 'liked it'......would have loved it if olivo was still with us, ugh. same here...
June 27, 200421 yr My overall opinion hinges on whether the Sox can get Garcia to resign and how Davis works out. At this point, I think they paid too much.
June 28, 200421 yr I voted "I Like It" but I really regret giving up Olivo. Like they say, "You gotta give sum to get sum."
June 28, 200421 yr One more fringe benefit of this deal is that we get to stuff it up the ass of the Spankees who were after this guy big time as well.
June 28, 200421 yr Reed was a prospect I understand, but I think Olivo was more than a prospect. We filled a big need on this team but created another one by dumping Miguel.
June 28, 200421 yr Reed was a prospect I understand, but I think Olivo was more than a prospect. We filled a big need on this team but created another one by dumping Miguel. I think Sandy and Burke can hold it down for this season. After that I think they have to go free agent to fill the hole.
June 28, 200421 yr I put don't like it cause I have no confidence we'll resign Fred. Donkey in my opinion said it all: "Reed was a prospect I understand, but I think Olivo was more than a prospect. We filled a big need on this team but created another one by dumping Miguel." If we resign Fred and he does well KW deserves GM of the year. If he walks after this season, we gave up way too much.
June 28, 200421 yr Miguel is a f***ing stud and Reed too???? There better be a randy johnson inside Freddy Garcia. I completely agree. This was a shaft and a half. If Garcia re-signs then it becomes an ok deal. To trade one stud is one thing, but 2? And I've long said I'd trade ANY minor leaguer ahead of Reed. His numbers are the best and he is the closest. The turnout rate of minor leaguers isn't high enough to know that a guy hitting 250 in high-A (Sweeney) is going to make it. Olivo is a sure thing future all-star. I think Reed could become one too.. :headshake I miss Reed already Think about the future of this team now. The outfield looks like Borchard (who I'm not high on), Lee, and x in centerfield if Maggs doesn't re-sign. This trade creates another hole (catcher) and puts further emphasis on us re-signing Maggs. Our future is in major question. Imagine if Maggs and Garcia leave. I know it's the 'go for it this year' notion, but I don't think this team can make it. Deal for Andruw Jones and I'll be f***ing thrilled.
June 28, 200421 yr Think about the future of this team now. The outfield looks like Borchard (who I'm not high on), Lee, and x in centerfield if Maggs doesn't re-sign. I would say Anderson, and that's probably the only one that has a shot to reach the majors like Reed. Other than that I can't see anyone else. BTW, I'm not a Borchard fan.
June 28, 200421 yr I would say Anderson, and that's probably the only one that has a shot to reach the majors like Reed. Other than that I can't see anyone else. BTW, I'm not a Borchard fan. Anderson will not make the big league team on Opening Day. He has yet to face a pitch of AA ball (I sound like Brando now ). He will probably go to AA sometime this year and might start next year at AAA. The only hope of him making the Sox is late next year.
June 28, 200421 yr For those who don't know: Ozzie is Freddy's future Fr-in-law. CWS starter's ERA: 5.04 Freddy Garcia's ERA: 3.20 (2.61 home, 3.91 away) Sox face Minn, cub, Ana, & Sea before the break. Sox lose Minn series, SOX 2 gb facing the cub. Sox win Minn series, SOX 1 gu facing the cub. It's a 3 game swing in the standings. Any questions?
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