BobDylan Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Without Magglio and Frank, the Twins are a better team. Koskie > Crede Guzman = Valentin Rivas = Harris/Uribe Morneau Jones > Borchard/Perez/Gload Hunter > Rowand Stewart = Lee LeCroy > Alomar Jr Radke > Buehrle Santana > Garcia Silva > Loaiza Lohse Greisinger Nathan > Takatsu Romero Rincon > Politte Roa > Jackson Fultz > Cotts Mullholland These are purely opinions, but the White Sox aren't very favorable without Thomas and Ordonez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Without Magglio and Frank, the Twins are a better team. Koskie > Crede Guzman = Valentin Rivas = Harris/Uribe Morneau Jones > Borchard/Perez/Gload Hunter > Rowand Stewart = Lee Radke > Buehrle Santana > Garcia Silva > Loaiza Lohse Greisinger Nathan > Takatsu Romero Rincon > Politte Roa > Jackson Fultz > Cotts Mullholland These are purely opinions, but the White Sox aren't very favorable without Thomas and Ordonez. I'm not a huge fan of comparing players by position to figure out what team is better, also Mullholland is in their rotation right now and I think Seth is in aaa but anyways if I had to do this mine would be like this: Koskie > Crede Guzman Rivas = Harris/Uribe Morneau Jones > Borchard/Perez/Gload Hunter Stewart Radke Santana > Garcia Silva > Loaiza Lohse Mullholland > Schoeneweis Nathan = Takatsu Romero Rincon > Politte Roa > Jackson Fultz > Cotts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 Guzman Hunter Stewart Radke Nathan I don't feel Valentin is better than Guzman because he's apparently the White Sox 2 hitter, who's batting .240 with an OBP barely over .300 and he's an automatic out against lefties. While Guzman doesn't have a high OBP either, he's batting .287 all around and hits both pitchers rather solid (.273 avg against right, .314 against left). Clutch hitter or not, he's not a good hitter in the 2 hole for the White Sox. I also think Hunter is better than Rowand because he showed up and put up numbers for the entire season. While it maybe didn't matter as much with Thomas and Ordonez healthy, where was Rowand to start the year? And there is no disputing Hunters ability in the field. I don't think Lee is better than Stewart for one simple reason, Stewart gets that team going. He's one of the best lead off hitters in the AL and he flat out gets on base for them and brings in big hits. Carlos has good numbers, but has choked many, many times in clutch situations for the Sox. I don't know why you feel Buehrle is better than Radke. Buehrle's been up and down all year and while he's been real good at times, his ERA is 3.93, nothing stellar. He also folded against Radke in game 1. And Takatsu better than Nathan? Takatsu has been good for the Sox, but Nathan has been better. Shingo 8 saves (0 blown) 1.19 ERA. Nathan 27 saves (1 blown) 0.99 ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 And Takatsu better than Nathan? Takatsu has been good for the Sox, but Nathan has been better. Shingo 8 saves (0 blown) 1.19 ERA. Nathan 27 saves (1 blown) 0.99 ERA. Yeah that one I'm going to change, I think it's more of an equal thing right now. Shingo has been awesome but so has nathan he does have more saves but shingo hasn't had the opp's yet(obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Right now that may be true, but there's 2 factors that come into consideration. 1) Kenny Williams - Who knows what's going on in this guy's head, I gotta feeling he's not going to settle for what we have if we lose the series tomorrow. Bautista from the D-Backs and Catalanotto from the Blue Jays are likely targets. 2) The Twinkies Schedule - Let's see how they can cope with opponents such as the A's and Yankees awaiting their presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 Right now that may be true, but there's 2 factors that come into consideration. 1) Kenny Williams - Who knows what's going on in this guy's head, I gotta feeling he's not going to settle for what we have if we lose the series tomorrow. Bautista from the D-Backs and Catalanotto from the Blue Jays are likely targets. 2) The Twinkies Schedule - Let's see how they can cope with opponents such as the A's and Yankees awaiting their presence. I think a legitimate everyday player in RF (hopefully somebody for the top of the order) is a must now...and so is some bullpen relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxRox Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Don't forget, Rowan et al, that they'll have Mauer coming off the DL soon...and that kid can flat-out HIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Don't forget, Rowan et al, that they'll have Mauer coming off the DL soon...and that kid can flat-out HIT. Until he goes back on the DL again. THat knee injury/surgery he had is really serious. He won't be playing catcher much longer. One site I read had him done as a catcher within 5 years. He will be switched to 1B most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 He will be switched to 1B most likely. Only if they switch Morneau to DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Only if they switch Morneau to DH. or left field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 or left field Morneau doesn't look like a LFer to me. Too big, too clumsy, and too slow to be a LFer, especially for the Twins. He looks like he'd be worse then Ross Gload in the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 s*** anything is fine with me if we can get Borchard off the field... the guy needs to either play or go home.. Im starting to get tired of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Morneau doesn't look like a LFer to me. Too big, too clumsy, and too slow to be a LFer, especially for the Twins. He looks like he'd be worse then Ross Gload in the OF. Kinda sounds like a LFer to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 s*** anything is fine with me if we can get Borchard off the field... the guy needs to either play or go home.. Im starting to get tired of him WOW! Give the guy a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 Comparing players position by position and then counting the results to determine who has the better team? That is complete and utter stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 28, 2004 Author Share Posted July 28, 2004 :dips*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASHWOUND Posted July 28, 2004 Share Posted July 28, 2004 s*** anything is fine with me if we can get Borchard off the field... the guy needs to either play or go home.. Im starting to get tired of him You can't blame Borchard..the guy is thrusted into a playoff run and he's not going to succeed in the situation.. Jumping from Triple A to the big leagues back to Triple A and back to the bigs..He needs to start the season on the team from beginning to end. We have to get a vet to replace Borchrad for this season..It's not Joe's fault, but now is not the time for him to learn and fail in the bigs..we're in a playoff race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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