Soxfest Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Needs to step up NO excuses, it is time the guy wins a must game and quits his MR average label. Lets see what he has got when it counts most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Let's hope he keeps Judy in the locker room, and we get Jon out on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Needs to step up NO excuses, it is time the guy wins a must game and quits his MR average label. Lets see what he has got when it counts most. I agree but does it matter anymore? Even if we get Cy Garland tonight, guaranteed we get Judy Garland in his next start. I've written this guy off as a number 4 SP, at best, that will hover around .500 his whole career. If anyone out there offers up a deal where Judy is mentioned, please KW, by all means, deal him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Killa let me ask you a question.. Would you have dealt Garland in that trade that nearly went down in 01 (I think this was the year) for Erstad? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Killa let me ask you a question.. Would you have dealt Garland in that trade that nearly went down in 01 (I think this was the year) for Erstad? Just curious. No. I was still under the delusion that maybe Judy would become what everyone here hoped he could/should have been by August of '04. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Why does Garland get all the hate? Sure, at home he sucks, but not many people succeed at The Cell anyways, and other than that game where he got rocked against Philly, he's been solid: Â Away from the Cell: 5-2, 3.71 ERA, 70+ IP, 1.24 WHIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 I agree but does it matter anymore? Even if we get Cy Garland tonight, guaranteed we get Judy Garland in his next start. I've written this guy off as a number 4 SP, at best, that will hover around .500 his whole career. If anyone out there offers up a deal where Judy is mentioned, please KW, by all means, deal him. I agree Killa I do not care for him at all , but alot of people defend him , i would trade him in a minute he is AVERAGE at best. If he gets ripped tonight hell with Judy, he has had 100 chances to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Damn, I try to back up Garland, and he goes and gives up a two-run shot in the first inning. Â f***... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 30, 2004 Author Share Posted July 30, 2004 There is no defending JG anymore, he is just not a very good pitcher and .500 record 4th starter and no more and this ass is arbitration eligible........PLZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Judy showed up again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 Judy showed up again If this is all he gives up in the outing, he's done fine. The offense is pulling the Judy right now. We scored 2 on Sunday, 2 on Monday, 3 on Tuesday, 4 on Wednesday, and 2 on Thursday.....Woo-hoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxman352000 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 If this is all he gives up in the outing, he's done fine. The offense is pulling the Judy right now. Yeah I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 DJ just made a great point. If we could score some runs we'd have a great chance right now. The pitching really hasn't been bad at all during the losing streak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 The offense is pulling the Judy right now. We scored 2 on Sunday, 2 on Monday, 3 on Tuesday, 4 on Wednesday, and 2 on Thursday.....Woo-hoo! Those are recent woes. Please explain Garland's consistent mediocrity or is it that he's young and needs more time to develop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Use him to get Randy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndgt10 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 There is no defending JG anymore, he is just not a very good pitcher and .500 record 4th starter and no more and this ass is arbitration eligible........PLZ Completely agree with you....However, be prepared to take some abuse from the dumbs*** supporters of Judy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 31, 2004 Author Share Posted July 31, 2004 Completely agree with you....However, be prepared to take some abuse from the dumbs*** supporters of Judy... Been here a long time Im ready for it all, but JG is a lost cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Completely agree with you....However, be prepared to take some abuse from the dumbs*** supporters of Judy... The only numbers that matter..... Â Judy Garland 2000: 4-8 2001: 6-7 2002: 12-12 2003: 12-13 2004 (to date): 7-7 Â I don't give a f*** what any of Judy's supporters say when it comes to WHIP, ERA, IP, Home/Away, Righty vs. Lefty, etc. The only numbers that mean s*** clearly show that Judy is mediocre to a fault. Who cares what your other stats are when your career W-L is 41-47 over 4+ seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 The only numbers that matter..... Judy Garland 2000: 4-8 2001: 6-7 2002: 12-12 2003: 12-13 2004 (to date): 7-7  I don't give a f*** what any of Judy's supporters say when it comes to WHIP, ERA, IP, Home/Away, Righty vs. Lefty, etc. The only numbers that mean s*** clearly show that Judy is mediocre to a fault. Who cares what your other stats are when your career W-L is 41-47 over 4+ seasons? His ERA is mediocre, FWIW. A career ERA of 4-4.50(do not have the stats off hand right now) is nothing to write home about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 His ERA is mediocre, FWIW. A career ERA of 4-4.50(do not have the stats off hand right now) is nothing to write home about. Here you go.  Career 41 47 4.59 135 114 2 1 1 1 704.1 711 396 359 93 300 391 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 We struggle to tie it and 2 f***ing batters later we're losing. f*** you Jon Garland. I will not miss you whenever your sorry ass leaves the White Sox. Bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 why is it that everytime we tie a game or take the lead we give it right back up to the other team...what the f*** is wrong with our momentum...none of the players have any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 We struggle to tie it and 2 f***ing batters later we're losing. f*** you Jon Garland. I will not miss you whenever your sorry ass leaves the White Sox. Bastard. 2 runs so far. But it's not like Garland has been the only one to pull this s***. Sad to say, it's becoming routine for Judy and Loaiza especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 2 runs so far. But it's not like Garland has been the only one to pull this s***. Sad to say, it's becoming routine for Judy and Loaiza especially. You're right, it's kind of an epidemic, but Garland just pisses the absolute f*** out of me. Mr. f***ing clutch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Mr. f***ing clutch. For the Tigers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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