July 31, 200421 yr Does anyone else know how long Jose is signed for? 2003: $4.0M (+$6.0M signing bonus) 2004: $7.0M 2005: $7.0M 2006: $8.0M -Signing bonus paid $2M in 2003 & 2004, $1M in 2005 & 2006
July 31, 200421 yr This is a tremendous deal by KW!! Loaiza isn't anywhere near as good as he was last year, and there was no way he was coming back. Hopefully, we got a lot of money from the Yanks to pay the next 3 yrs of Contreras salary. Think of it this way: If he was a prospect, he'd be as high of a pitching prospect that existed in mlb. I would love him w/Buehrle, Garcia, and Garland next year. Way to go KW. Agreed. Good job Kenny
July 31, 200421 yr Its a shame how much injuries will hurt us this year. If Frank and Maggs are back sometime in september, and jurassic is pretty ok, then we still might have a chance.
July 31, 200421 yr I didn't see Loaiza coming back this year, only going to a 5.00+ ERA. I saw him quickly becoming the 5th starter. Contreras has a big upside and could be key down the stretch. This is a good deal by KW.
July 31, 200421 yr Wow, I feel like this is the 2000 election results. Nooo, wait, trade is on, noooooo wait, trade is off, nooooo wait, it's back on again.
July 31, 200421 yr is it just me or did the cubs get REAMED in this deal? I don't know if the prospects included were cubs prospects but to only get Nomar for Clement (who's damn good), A-Gon, and prospects like Beltran you gotta be crazy.
July 31, 200421 yr I dont know whats better, the fact that we got Contreas or the fact that the Twins got Derek Lowe.
July 31, 200421 yr is it just me or did the cubs get REAMED in this deal? I don't know if the prospects included were cubs prospects but to only get Nomar for Clement (who's damn good), A-Gon, and prospects like Beltran you gotta be crazy. They have enough pitching, and they were desperate for offense.
July 31, 200421 yr I'm afraid Derek Lowe might pitch really well with that great defense behind him. I'd rather them get benson personally.
July 31, 200421 yr Us getting Contreas. I have a feeling he's gonna blossom into a good 2 or 3 hole starter, and we desparately needed that. Glossed over in all this, is DAMN I was hoping we'd get a bat in all of this, we need it.
July 31, 200421 yr haha, good point... theo epstein is a very good GM... my god, they just shored up that Infield Defense!!! Meintkewicz and Cabrera, there you go, defense solved, nobody after Pedro and Schill? How about Matt Clement...he's a great GM.
July 31, 200421 yr qwerty, just because you're desperate doesn't mean you should overpay. Seriously, how much better will Nomar be for the cubs than gonzalez was? The replacement value can't be all that much of a difference. There's no way they re-sign Nomar, it's been known that he wants to play on the west coast. So why the hell do you rent him for 3 months by dumping a great pitcher, a servicable shortstop, and two prospects? It just doesn't make sense.
July 31, 200421 yr haha, good point... theo epstein is a very good GM... my god, they just shored up that Infield Defense!!! Meintkewicz and Cabrera, there you go, defense solved, nobody after Pedro and Schill? How about Matt Clement...he's a great GM. they didnt get Clement
July 31, 200421 yr Author This is a good deal if Contreras is healthy and can pitch like he has in the past. The biggest reason though---Loaiza didn't listen to Cooper and Ozzie. They told him he needed to stop nibbling, to go after hitters aggressively. He refused. Loaiza doesn't have the stuff or control he had last year, so coming inside is suicide. Ask Danny Wright. His only prayer was to locate, locate, locate, nibble, niblle, nibble and to keep hitters guessing, and unfortunately he didn't have the pinpoint control, especially with his slider and change-up, to be a very good finesse pitcher.
July 31, 200421 yr they didnt get Clement okay, jeeze, realize that the clement thing just came out 2 minutes ago after i already typed it...
July 31, 200421 yr You were a great pitcher (last year that is) but also gave us 9 wins this year. You’re a great man and I wish you luck with the Yankee$. Your record here with the Sox is 30-14 with a 3. something ERA. Thank you for everything E-LO... I know you tried your best to get to the same page as last year but had your troubles. Once again... good luck and take care
July 31, 200421 yr Holy crap, the biased assholes on ESPN are ripping this trade. They make it seem like Loaiza is a consisten Cy-Young contender and a high-quality pitcher while Contares is a bottom-feeder.
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