JoshPR Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Does anyone else know how long Jose is signed for? 4 years. He has 2 left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 4 years. He has 2 left Including this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Does anyone else know how long Jose is signed for? 2003: $4.0M (+$6.0M signing bonus) 2004: $7.0M 2005: $7.0M 2006: $8.0M -Signing bonus paid $2M in 2003 & 2004, $1M in 2005 & 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 This is a tremendous deal by KW!! Loaiza isn't anywhere near as good as he was last year, and there was no way he was coming back. Hopefully, we got a lot of money from the Yanks to pay the next 3 yrs of Contreras salary. Think of it this way: If he was a prospect, he'd be as high of a pitching prospect that existed in mlb. I would love him w/Buehrle, Garcia, and Garland next year. Way to go KW. Agreed.  Good job Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 im guessin that the spankess just paid for the rest of this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Its a shame how much injuries will hurt us this year. If Frank and Maggs are back sometime in september, and jurassic is pretty ok, then we still might have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I didn't see Loaiza coming back this year, only going to a 5.00+ ERA. I saw him quickly becoming the 5th starter. Contreras has a big upside and could be key down the stretch. Â This is a good deal by KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Wow, I feel like this is the 2000 election results. Nooo, wait, trade is on, noooooo wait, trade is off, nooooo wait, it's back on again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 is it just me or did the cubs get REAMED in this deal? I don't know if the prospects included were cubs prospects but to only get Nomar for Clement (who's damn good), A-Gon, and prospects like Beltran you gotta be crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I dont know whats better, the fact that we got Contreas or the fact that the Twins got Derek Lowe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 is it just me or did the cubs get REAMED in this deal? I don't know if the prospects included were cubs prospects but to only get Nomar for Clement (who's damn good), A-Gon, and prospects like Beltran you gotta be crazy. They have enough pitching, and they were desperate for offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I'm afraid Derek Lowe might pitch really well with that great defense behind him. I'd rather them get benson personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Us getting Contreas. I have a feeling he's gonna blossom into a good 2 or 3 hole starter, and we desparately needed that. Â Glossed over in all this, is DAMN I was hoping we'd get a bat in all of this, we need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 haha, good point... Â theo epstein is a very good GM... Â my god, they just shored up that Infield Defense!!! Meintkewicz and Cabrera, there you go, defense solved, nobody after Pedro and Schill? How about Matt Clement...he's a great GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 qwerty, just because you're desperate doesn't mean you should overpay. Seriously, how much better will Nomar be for the cubs than gonzalez was? The replacement value can't be all that much of a difference. There's no way they re-sign Nomar, it's been known that he wants to play on the west coast. So why the hell do you rent him for 3 months by dumping a great pitcher, a servicable shortstop, and two prospects? It just doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 haha, good point... theo epstein is a very good GM...  my god, they just shored up that Infield Defense!!! Meintkewicz and Cabrera, there you go, defense solved, nobody after Pedro and Schill? How about Matt Clement...he's a great GM. they didnt get Clement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 people, join the chat so we can talk about all the the days action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesdi Posted July 31, 2004 Author Share Posted July 31, 2004 This is a good deal if Contreras is healthy and can pitch like he has in the past. The biggest reason though---Loaiza didn't listen to Cooper and Ozzie. They told him he needed to stop nibbling, to go after hitters aggressively. He refused. Â Â Loaiza doesn't have the stuff or control he had last year, so coming inside is suicide. Ask Danny Wright. Â His only prayer was to locate, locate, locate, nibble, niblle, nibble and to keep hitters guessing, and unfortunately he didn't have the pinpoint control, especially with his slider and change-up, to be a very good finesse pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 they didnt get Clement okay, jeeze, realize that the clement thing just came out 2 minutes ago after i already typed it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004  You were a great pitcher (last year that is) but also gave us 9 wins this year. You’re a great man and I wish you luck with the Yankee$. Your record here with the Sox is 30-14 with a 3. something ERA. Thank you for everything E-LO... I know you tried your best to get to the same page as last year but had your troubles. Once again... good luck and take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I wonder if contreras CAN CLOSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 This just in...I am now selling my Este All-Star Jersey, PM me if interested!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 I wonder if contreras CAN CLOSE ummm Shingo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox It To Em Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 Holy crap, the biased assholes on ESPN are ripping this trade. They make it seem like Loaiza is a consisten Cy-Young contender and a high-quality pitcher while Contares is a bottom-feeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted July 31, 2004 Share Posted July 31, 2004 KW on now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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