whitesox91403 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I don't see him listed as a free agent? Will he fall under the list of non-tendered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I don't see him listed as a free agent? Will he fall under the list of non-tendered? Arbitration eligble unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 Why do you say unfortunately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Why do you say unfortunately? He is a cry baby when he does not start. He is yet to realize he is not a starter, he does not have the arm strength to last a full season i believe. If he starts for us next year we might as well write of whatever chance we had of the playoffs. More than likely he will get more than he deserves which is another reason not to like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 So, if The Sox don't offer arbitration is he gone or is he under contract still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 So, if The Sox don't offer arbitration is he gone or is he under contract still? Free agent then i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox91403 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 Ok, I think you are right. He is not on the 40 man roster and I haven't heard anything as far as The Sox plans for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 He won't return here next year, If the sox are really committed to winning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Free agent. He's listed with the relievers. I thought he did fine before his elbow started acting up. If healthy, he's a more proven option than any other 5th starter candidate on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Free agent. He's listed with the relievers. I thought he did fine before his elbow started acting up. If healthy, he's a more proven option than any other 5th starter candidate on the roster. Yeah I gotta say, if things stay status quo with the starters, a healthy Scho is better than any of the other things I have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 My. Favorite. Player. ...that's his status!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 He was one of the most consistent starters at the beginning of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 My. Favorite. Player. ...that's his status!!! I'm sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Why do you say unfortunately? Schoeny is a crybaby who is a horrible teammate and a way to inconsistant pitcher. I hope Kenny rids of him ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 He was one of the most consistent starters at the beginning of last season. Its not how you start, It is how you finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Its not how you start, It is how you finish He helped to keep us in games early though. And game number one counts just as much as game number one-sixty-two. As suppose to be our fifth starter, he filled in adequately as our fourth for a month or so until he went down to injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 No way game number one counts as much as one sixty two. If you start off 0-1 you still have 161 games left to reconcile. If it comes down to the last game and you lose, you go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Arbitration eligble unfortunately. He could be packaged in a trade if I'm not mistaken, since the Sox would own his rights. I was thinking he was a free agent, but I guess I'm wrong. I'm assuming the Sox will either sign him or non tender him, but I doubt they go the way of arb. However, if Scott is willing to pitch out of the pen in a key role, I would welcome him back because he'd be a hell of an addition to the bullpen. Rubber arm that would be very effective from the left side. It would also really open up the potential to deal Munoz for some help in other areas since Cotts/Marte/Scho would be three capable lefties, in fact I think all three have high ceilings (we've already seen it from Marte, but he needs to do better this year then he did this past year). Plus, whether you want to hear it or not, if the Sox truly are considering moving Garland in a RJ deal or any other deal (we don't know whats going on in Kenny's mind) then Scho would be pencilled in as a 5th starter and for the money he'd be a pretty good value and he could easily slide into the pen (although I'm sure he'll b****) when/if Brandon McCarthy is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Yeah I gotta say, if things stay status quo with the starters, a healthy Scho is better than any of the other things I have seen. I have to agree with SS on this. The Hunt for 5th Starter part IV stars Sho if we do not sign a FA or someone steps way up in ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Plus, whether you want to hear it or not, if the Sox truly are considering moving Garland in a RJ deal or any other deal (we don't know whats going on in Kenny's mind) then Scho would be pencilled in as a 5th starter and for the money he'd be a pretty good value and he could easily slide into the pen (although I'm sure he'll b****) when/if Brandon McCarthy is ready. I dunno Jason. I think its well out of Kenny's hands. It's been confirmed (if you can consider Gammons as a credible source) that Kenny offered a deal surrounding Paulie, Garland, AND Brian Anderson. If Arizona doesn't pull the trigger on this one, they will never get one done with us. As far as Scho, I wouldn't mind him back as the fifth starter, if and only if, we make some SIGNIFICANT improvements in some other areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 He could be packaged in a trade if I'm not mistaken, since the Sox would own his rights. I was thinking he was a free agent, but I guess I'm wrong. I'm assuming the Sox will either sign him or non tender him, but I doubt they go the way of arb. However, if Scott is willing to pitch out of the pen in a key role, I would welcome him back because he'd be a hell of an addition to the bullpen. Rubber arm that would be very effective from the left side. It would also really open up the potential to deal Munoz for some help in other areas since Cotts/Marte/Scho would be three capable lefties, in fact I think all three have high ceilings (we've already seen it from Marte, but he needs to do better this year then he did this past year). Plus, whether you want to hear it or not, if the Sox truly are considering moving Garland in a RJ deal or any other deal (we don't know whats going on in Kenny's mind) then Scho would be pencilled in as a 5th starter and for the money he'd be a pretty good value and he could easily slide into the pen (although I'm sure he'll b****) when/if Brandon McCarthy is ready. So then if they own his rights and are able to still trade him how is a free agent at the same time? I most likely no but it is just not clicking right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 So then if they own his rights and are able to still trade him how is a free agent at the same time? I most likely no but it is just not clicking right now. Thats what I figured. I thought he was a free agent and the Sox just have the option to offer him arbitration, sign him before Dec. 7th, or decline arb and lose the chance to negotiate with him until May. You'd think Sho would accept arb, unless of course he got a multi year offer elsewhere where he would be guaranteed starting. This could create a semi timetable for Kenny if he does consider Scho a viable 5th starter if Garland is dealt in a package to bring in a front line pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 He was one of the most consistent starters at the beginning of last season. He was a pretty decent starter for about 1/3rd to 1/2 the season , but fell badly. I just don't think he has the arm strength to keep up the demands of a starting pitcher. But, I also think he may still end up an option for the Sox in some role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Its not how you start, It is how you finish He finished injured, which was why he was ineffective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted November 30, 2004 Share Posted November 30, 2004 Thats what I figured. I thought he was a free agent and the Sox just have the option to offer him arbitration, sign him before Dec. 7th, or decline arb and lose the chance to negotiate with him until May. You'd think Sho would accept arb, unless of course he got a multi year offer elsewhere where he would be guaranteed starting. This could create a semi timetable for Kenny if he does consider Scho a viable 5th starter if Garland is dealt in a package to bring in a front line pitcher. I think allow SS to walk without any compensation would be a mistake. They should offer arbitration and take their chances, if need be. He should be a solid pitcher somewhere on the Sox staff, in whatever role he fits. He's also a tradeable commodity that could make the difference in whether a deal gets done or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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