chisox2334 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Tigers E-MAIL THIS STORY | PRINTER-FRIENDLY FORMAT White Sox's Guillen: Urbina will show at camp December 11, 2004 BY JOHN LOWE FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Tigers reliever Ugueth Urbina intends to report to spring training even if his mother's kidnapping remains unsolved, Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said Friday. Guillen, a friend of Urbina, talked to him this week in their native Venezuela. "He said that he was ready to come to spring training regardless of what happens," Guillen said at baseball's winter meetings. Urbina's mother was kidnapped in Venezuela more than three months ago, and the case remains unsolved. Urbina left the Tigers and headed home as soon as he learned of the kidnapping, missing the final month of the season. The question now involves what team Urbina will join. The Tigers have two prominent reasons to trade him: They aren't sure if Urbina, who has been primarily a ninth-inning closer for many years, will gladly accept his demotion to eighth-inning setup man for Troy Percival, the newly signed closer. And Urbina is due to make $4 million next season, a high salary for a setup man. "Ugie is willing to do anything they want -- that's the business," Guillen said of Urbina's attitude about pitching the eighth. "Hopefully when he shows up to spring training, he'll feel the same way. "When you've been a closer all your life and all of a sudden you change, maybe something happens. But right now he is willing to help Alan Trammell." Trammell, the manager, has no experienced reliever on the roster besides Urbina for the crucial setup role of holding leads in the eighth inning. Although the Tigers are willing to entertain offers for Urbina, they could delay dealing him until they sign or trade for an experienced reliever for the eighth. Unlike a year ago, when he did little if any throwing in the off-season, Urbina planned to begin pitching Friday in a Venezuelan league, Guillen said. "Ugie is in great shape," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 With the addition of Hermanson as a set-up guy, I can't see how we're going to acquire another one in Urbina even though he's great friends with Ozzie. We've got more important needs to fill, mainly a starter and an infielder or catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 The Sox have no reason to acquire Ugie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 He's not worth 4 mill a year anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Bullpen - assuming we get Flash in the Vasquez trade. Shingo - Closer Gordon - Set up Marte - Set up Urbina - pre setup Hermanson - setup pre setup Cotts and Adkins - Long This looks workable to me. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox2334 Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 i gurantee ozzie telling kenny go look trade with detriot if detriot is looking tade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Bullpen - assuming we get Flash in the Vasquez trade. Shingo - Closer Gordon - Set up Marte - Set up Urbina - pre setup Hermanson - setup pre setup Cotts and Adkins - Long This looks workable to me. :rolly You're forgetting Politte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 You're forgetting Politte. Damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Cotts - Long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 LMAO@Steff.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Gerth is what counts steff.... atleast thats what my boo tells me............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 [prints screen for blackmail material] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisox05 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 With the addition of Hermanson as a set-up guy, I can't see how we're going to acquire another one in Urbina even though he's great friends with Ozzie. We've got more important needs to fill, mainly a starter and an infielder or catcher. Don't say that, whenever i hear the name dustin or hermanson i get real pissed off, combined, im furious. This was a HORRIBLE signing by KW and makes no sense, it also shows what a hypicrit he is. "We've been targeting him for a few years now"-Ya, go pay 5.5 millon for 2 years for a guy that hasnt had an era below 4.45 since the last century. Also, why didnt u get him for nothing after his horrible year with the redsox, that was less than 3 years ago, u couldve gotten him for nothing. Now we have Munoz,JBaj and Diaz-1 or 2 of them should have had relief jobs next season and I strongly believe that ALL 3 of them are better than hermanson. KW, you are a hypicrit and settle for less than mediocrity, this is a very sad day. PS.Don't give me emergency starter crap, we can get an emergency starter for under a million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Don't say that, whenever i hear the name dustin or hermanson i get real pissed off, combined, im furious. This was a HORRIBLE signing by KW and makes no sense, it also shows what a hypicrit he is. "We've been targeting him for a few years now"-Ya, go pay 5.5 millon for 2 years for a guy that hasnt had an era below 4.45 since the last century. Also, why didnt u get him for nothing after his horrible year with the redsox, that was less than 3 years ago, u couldve gotten him for nothing. Now we have Munoz,JBaj and Diaz-1 or 2 of them should have had relief jobs next season and I strongly believe that ALL 3 of them are better than hermanson. KW, you are a hypicrit and settle for less than mediocrity, this is a very sad day. PS.Don't give me emergency starter crap, we can get an emergency starter for under a million. Did you see his numbers as a reliever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 I wanted Urbina before I knew what we had in Shingo. And I was pissed to see him go to the Tigers, because if healthy - he can shut a team down. But now, it seems like too much money for a guy who's going to set up or share closing duties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 I'll need to tell Neal about this one....he already thinks Steff is a little strange..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 I'll need to tell Neal about this one....he already thinks Steff is a little strange..... A little.. Good grief.. you all think it's fine to post that hot chicks thread.. but heaven for bid someone thinks a guy is hot around here.. prudes. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 :headshake Yas.. no worries.. you're ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'll need to tell Neal about this one....he already thinks Steff is a little strange..... Ask Baj what he thinks of her... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Ask Baj what he thinks of her... Baj is a finger pointing RAT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 A little.. Good grief.. you all think it's fine to post that hot chicks thread.. but heaven for bid someone thinks a guy is hot around here.. prudes. :rolly steff, I think it's heaven forbid Heaven for bid is usually on late at night with a toll-free number to call with your credit card for instant salvation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Baj is a finger pointing RAT!!! ICU Classic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Yas.. no worries.. you're ahead of him. Thank ya, Darlin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 steff, I think it's heaven forbid Heaven for bid is usually on late at night with a toll-free number to call with your credit card for instant salvation LMAO! And Steff - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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