Does anyone tend to believe that Rowand is starting a trend towards that of Carlos Lee? What I mean is this: When given a full season to play, Caballo did well and got better and better. Finally last season, Rowand was given a chance to play everyday and produced. Is it possible that KW believed that Rowand will contuniue to improve which made Caballo expendable? I have heard that Rowand works harder than almost anyone in the offseason, which tends me to believe he will get better and better.

 

The theory was Dye replaced Maggs in right. So, is it Rowand's time now to carry on what Carlos had been doing?

 

Just a thought.............

I think Rowand is more than ready to handle the day to day chores in the outfield. I always was very enthusiastic about this guy and I too said give him playing time and watch him get better. Now that he has a good season under his belt this is his time to shine and make people understand that last season wasn't a fluke.

IMO AROW is going to be a great player for us. He's not only a grinder but he has a ton of talent and needs to be signed to a long term deal (in fact he should of been signed well before Uribe).

AROW was ready 2 years ago. KW just got Everett before he could prove it.

Does anyone tend to believe that Rowand is starting a trend towards that of Carlos Lee? What I mean is this: When given a full season to play, Caballo did well and got better and better. Finally last season, Rowand was given a chance to play everyday and produced. Is it possible that KW believed that Rowand will contuniue to improve which made Caballo expendable? I have heard that Rowand works harder than almost anyone in the offseason, which tends me to believe he will get better and better.

 

The theory was Dye replaced Maggs in right. So, is it Rowand's time now to carry on what Carlos had been doing?

 

Just a thought.............

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Lee didn't always get better. He had a year or two when it seemed like he slipped.

 

And I think KW just wanted to reshape the team from a power hitting all or nothing type to one more on small ball.

ro ro row your boat all the way to freakin town ladys and gents because this guy is the real deal

 

i know, i should be a sports commentation, tell that to reinsdorff

 

just dont tell im that im...

a) a drunk

and

B) a god awful speller

I find it funny that when most everyone on this and other Sox message boards were calling for Rowand's head and saying he would never be an everyday player, that I was one of the few predicting his success as a full-time player.

 

Now after he has had a good year most everyone believes he is a future star and I am one of the few saying hold off on that flavor of Kool Aid.

 

I am still a Rowand backer, but I think perhaps some are expecting too much from him. I don't think Rowand is a .300 hitter. I have always said he has good power potential and I still stand by that, but I think he will end up being a .270's hitter. While his plate discipline has improved and may continue to do so, I don't think he'll ever be considered a high OBP guy either. He'll be respectable, but if he hits .270 with a .320-.330 OBP will people be disappointed? I hope not.

but if he hits .270 with a .320-.330 OBP will people be disappointed?  I hope not.

I won't be too disappointed. I was one of those who thought he wouldn't amount to anything.

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I find it funny that when most everyone on this and other Sox message boards were calling for Rowand's head and saying he would never be an everyday player, that I was one of the few predicting his success as a full-time player.

 

Now after he has had a good year most everyone believes he is a future star and I am one of the few saying hold off on that flavor of Kool Aid. 

 

I am still a Rowand backer, but I think perhaps some are expecting too much from him.  I don't think Rowand is a .300 hitter.  I have always said he has good power potential and I still stand by that, but I think he will end up being a .270's hitter.  While his plate discipline has improved and may continue to do so, I don't think he'll ever be considered a high OBP guy either.  He'll be respectable, but if he hits .270 with a .320-.330 OBP will people be disappointed?  I hope not.

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As another one of the people last year who still backed him when EVERYONE ELSE fell off the bandwagon I think that with AROW the talent has always been there. I think that the drive has always been their. IMO I think he will hit around .290+ with a .340 OBP.

The thing that I fear is that I believe that he is a "slow starter." I fully expect him to slump in April. I'm just afraid that everyone is going to fall off the bandwagon before he heats up again.

I find it funny that when most everyone on this and other Sox message boards were calling for Rowand's head and saying he would never be an everyday player, that I was one of the few predicting his success as a full-time player.

 

you make it sound like you were the only one.

tisk task.... there was much support for arow... not as much cynism as support, but still there were a large few who were on his side.

you make it sound like you were the only one.

tisk task.... there was much support for arow... not as much cynism as support, but still there were a large few who were on his side.

 

 

Oh I disagree. I remember getting into several discussions where I had to back up ARow. Most people were ready to dump him for little or nothing. I also happen to agree with Rex. I felt Arow was would be a damn good ballplayer, but never predicted greatness for him.

ro ro row your boat all the way to freakin town ladys and gents because this guy is the real deal

 

i know, i should be a sports commentation, tell that to reinsdorff

 

just dont tell im that im...

a) a drunk

and

B) a god awful speller

 

1) So was Harry Carey, and DJ is high during every Sox game.

 

and

 

2) What does spelling have to do with doing sports commentary?

 

Based off of what I've seen of you, though, I'd say you're already 10 times better than DJ is. He hasn't gotten 1 iota better since he first started. All he does is agree with Hawk and say things that 99% of the time are either useless, irrelevant, or flat out wrong.

Oh I disagree.  I remember getting into several discussions where I had to back up ARow.  Most people were ready to dump him for little or nothing.  I also happen to agree with Rex.  I felt Arow was would be a damn good ballplayer, but never predicted greatness for him.

 

Oh believe me there were plenty of "dorn" converstations, and people ready to trade him for the first thing to come along.

IMO AROW is going to be a great player for us. He's not only a grinder but he has a ton of talent and needs to be signed to a long term deal (in fact he should of been signed well before Uribe).

AROW was ready 2 years ago. KW just got Everett before he could prove it.

 

I absolutely agree! Sign this guy now!

AROW was ready 2 years ago. KW just got Everett before he could prove it.

 

AROW was still coming off of that life threating injury when they brought in Evereet. I always have liked AROW he set himself back with that injury. AROW will be an ALLSTAR this year.

AROW was still coming off of that life threating injury when they brought in Evereet.  I always have liked AROW he set himself back with that injury. AROW will be an ALLSTAR this year.

 

hes not yet the player people notice around the mlb

 

so unfortunately you can count him out of the allstar game

you make it sound like you were the only one.

tisk task.... there was much support for arow... not as much cynism as support, but still there were a large few who were on his side.

 

I was one of the few that felt he would be good enough to be an everyday player, so I will stand by my comments. If I had to guess I'd say 95% of the people either thought he sucked and belonged in AAA or was no better than a 4th OF.

 

I believe that is accurate, but am open to arguments that Rowand had a bigger following than that. If it was there, it must have been a silent minority, because I don't remember reading it.

hes not yet the player people notice around the mlb

 

so unfortunately you can count him out of the allstar game

 

I remember them talking about him all over espn how he is the hardest working player in the mlb. That has to mean something, right?

I was one of the few that felt he would be good enough to be an everyday player, so I will stand by my comments.  If I had to guess I'd say 95% of the people either thought he sucked and belonged in AAA or was no better than a 4th OF. 

 

I believe that is accurate, but am open to arguments that Rowand had a bigger following than that.  If it was there, it must have been a silent minority, because I don't remember reading it.

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I was one who felt he'd be an excellent 4th OF in the long term.

 

He had a very good year last year but still needs to work on some things. Walks vs. K's, for one.

 

I'm not jumping down his throat, a lot of 27 yr. old players still have things to work on.

I was one who felt he'd be an excellent 4th OF in the long term.

 

He had a very good year last year but still needs to work on some things.  Walks vs. K's, for one.

 

I'm not jumping down his throat, a lot of 27 yr. old players still have things to work on.

 

Agreed