Manrique's Mustache Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 Speaking at a fan seminar Saturday at SoxFest at the Hyatt Regency, Guillen sounded set on a lineup of Podsednik leading off, followed by shortstop Juan Uribe, right fielder Jermaine Dye, first baseman Paul Konerko, designated hitter Carl Everett, Rowand, catcher A.J. Pierzynski, third baseman Joe Crede and second baseman Willie Harris. This line-up seems a bit off to me. I don't see how Rowand is not batting second. He deserves the shot for more AB's after last year hitting over .300. He should be swaped with Uribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 QUOTE(Manrique's Mustache @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 04:32 PM) Speaking at a fan seminar Saturday at SoxFest at the Hyatt Regency, Guillen sounded set on a lineup of Podsednik leading off, followed by shortstop Juan Uribe, right fielder Jermaine Dye, first baseman Paul Konerko, designated hitter Carl Everett, Rowand, catcher A.J. Pierzynski, third baseman Joe Crede and second baseman Willie Harris. This line-up seems a bit off to me. I don't see how Rowand is not batting second. He deserves the shot for more AB's after last year hitting over .300. He should be swaped with Uribe. Welcome to soxtalk Your right, Rowand should not be batting so far down. He should be at #2 or #3. The ideal line up should be something like this: Pods Rowand Dye Koney Everett Aj uribe Joe harris or Pods uribe Rowand koney Dye Everett Aj joe harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(Manrique's Mustache @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) Speaking at a fan seminar Saturday at SoxFest at the Hyatt Regency, Guillen sounded set on a lineup of Podsednik leading off, followed by shortstop Juan Uribe, right fielder Jermaine Dye, first baseman Paul Konerko, designated hitter Carl Everett, Rowand, catcher A.J. Pierzynski, third baseman Joe Crede and second baseman Willie Harris. This line-up seems a bit off to me. I don't see how Rowand is not batting second. He deserves the shot for more AB's after last year hitting over .300. He should be swaped with Uribe. First off welcome aboard. Secondly, I think this lineup is relatively accurate simply because the White Sox want to move Rowand into a more production oriented position and having him hitting 6th is simply a benefit of the fact that this lineup has that type of ability. However, I think Rowands future spot will be the 3 hole, but I think the Sox want to give Ozzie some more time to develop into that spot. I do think that if Juan struggles, you'll quickly see Rowand back in the two hole. But the offseason is not done, so we shall see. The thing that really upset me was Rowand being rumored to be the left fielder and not the centerfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB56 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxmatt @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) Welcome to soxtalk Your right, Rowand should not be batting so far down. He should be at #2 or #3. The ideal line up should be something like this: Pods Rowand Dye Koney Everett Aj uribe Joe harris or Pods uribe Rowand koney Dye Everett Aj joe harris I would put Pods Uribe Konerko Rowand Dye Everett Pierzynski Crede Harris And start buehrle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(MarkB56 @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 08:41 PM) I would put Pods Uribe Konerko Rowand Dye Everett Pierzynski Crede Harris And start buehrle No way, Konerko is purely a clean up hitter he belongs nowhere else. And if anyone were to replace him as clean up it would be Dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I would put Pods Uribe Konerko Rowand Dye Everett Pierzynski Crede Harris And start buehrle <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Rowand in the clean-up spot? why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB56 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) Rowand in the clean-up spot? why I might be wrong but wasnt rowand the highest avg. on the team? So if pods or any one in front of rowand gets on he can drive them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I agree with Ozzie's lineup. He's the manager, he knows what he's doing. If Uribe struggles he probably will put Rowand in the 2 hole. Also guys, remember it's just January. Tons of time to change things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(MarkB56 @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 08:51 PM) I might be wrong but wasnt rowand the highest avg. on the team? So if pods or any one in front of rowand gets on he can drive them in. You dont necessarily put the guy with the highest avg. in the clean up spot. You put the guy there who will drive in the most runs... thats not rowand. Its konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(MarkB56 @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 08:51 PM) I might be wrong but wasnt rowand the highest avg. on the team? So if pods or any one in front of rowand gets on he can drive them in. Miguel Cairo up until June had a higher BA than Derek Jeter, if you were Joe Torre, would you put Cairo in the 2 hole instead of Jeter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxmatt @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 08:53 PM) You dont necessarily put the guy with the highest avg. in the clean up spot. You put the guy there who will drive in the most runs... thats not rowand. Its konerko. I completely agree. That's how you use the power holes in the lineup(3,4,5). Rowand does have as much power. 6 or 2 is perfect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkB56 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 08:53 PM) Miguel Cairo up until June had a higher BA than Derek Jeter, if you were Joe Torre, would you put Cairo in the 2 hole instead of Jeter? You are right. I made a mistake on this one. But rowand was batting all over last year and lead off batted 2nd and also lower in the order. So he did not have that many chances at the #2 hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jan 17, 2005 -> 08:53 PM) Miguel Cairo up until June had a higher BA than Derek Jeter, if you were Joe Torre, would you put Cairo in the 2 hole instead of Jeter? Or if you were the Orioles would you put melvin mora in the clean-up spot over Miguel tejada just because mora has a better avg? Hell no Tejada had 150 RBI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Pods, Rowand, Dye, Koney, Everett, Uribe, AJ, Crede, Harris Speed at the top(Pods, Rowand), Speed in the middle (Uribe), & speed at the end (Harris). If we are lucky & Harris excels it would be best to slot him ahead of Crede. But he has to earn that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 The lineup needed to be put in place this way to be able to break up righty's and lefty's. I think Rowand will be fine down in the 6 hole and if Uribe plays like he is capable, you'll see a lot of Podsednik lead off hits, followed by a steal and then Juan knocking in Scott. I like our lineup without Frank, the scary part will be when he comes back healthy and is thrown in there in place of Carl. Our lineup will be very, very good at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 If only Carl could play 2nd. Hey guys, I have an idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) If only Carl could play 2nd. Hey guys, I have an idea... COuld you imagine how bad the defense on the right side of the infield would be with a Jurassic/Pauly tandem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 eh to me Konerko's defense really isnt that bad his range isnt great but if its in his little area he good.... But nonetheless i see your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 01:22 PM) COuld you imagine how bad the defense on the right side of the infield would be with a Jurassic/Pauly tandem. Some guy at the Sunday Q&A suggested moving Pauly to 3rd and starting Frank at first. Now can you imagine starting Carl at 2nd on top of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 01:57 PM) Some guy at the Sunday Q&A suggested moving Pauly to 3rd and starting Frank at first. Now can you imagine starting Carl at 2nd on top of that? Cmon 2k5, it worked for his xbox team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 18, 2005 -> 03:17 PM) Cmon 2k5, it worked for his xbox team I actually have PS2 and no X-Box and I meant it as a joke. Sorry, I didn't use green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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