January 30, 200521 yr The bulls have been playing great but lost today. I think they just had one bad game and i think they will finsh the season right behind clevaland in 2nd but still have a spot in the playoffs.
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(soxman35 @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 11:34 PM) The bulls have been playing great but lost today. I think they just had one bad game and i think they will finsh the season right behind clevaland in 2nd but still have a spot in the playoffs. You don't think the heat will be in first?
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) You don't think the heat will be in first? I think he means 2nd in the division.
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 12:46 AM) I think he means 2nd in the division. lol at 2nd in the division because we all know Indiana and Detroit are not going to be able to beat us in teh standings
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) All i want is the sixth seed. I don't care how many wins it is. Im with you. 6th seed is actually better than getting the 5th seed. Maybe even the 4th.
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) All i want is the sixth seed. I don't care how many wins it is. I don't think the Bulls are going to get it, especially if they struggle when they play all those road games. I'm thinking it's a battle between Washington and Orlando for that 6th spot.
January 30, 200521 yr I just want the playoffs. I don't care what seed we get. Getting to the playoffs will be a wonderful step in the right direction for this franchise.
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 01:56 AM) I don't think the Bulls are going to get it, especially if they struggle when they play all those road games. I'm thinking it's a battle between Washington and Orlando for that 6th spot. Yes, because the magic are so much better than the bulls.
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 07:57 PM) Yes, because the magic are so much better than the bulls. When they're healthy, yes I do believe that's the case, although I know a lot of people are going to dispute that. If you look at some of the Bulls' stats, they really struggle against good scoring teams, despite how good their defense may be (3-8 vs. top 10 scoring teams), and against teams that hardly turn the ball over (4-9 vs. top 10 least turnover prone teams). And the Bulls have had a very good run with injuries so far this season, unlike previous years. If someone like Hinrich went down, they'd be in big trouble.
January 30, 200521 yr I think the Bulls will win 45 games this year and that would be cool if they got the 6th seed since there's a good chance of a sub-500 team coming out of there.
January 30, 200521 yr QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) When they're healthy, yes I do believe that's the case, although I know a lot of people are going to dispute that. If you look at some of the Bulls' stats, they really struggle against good scoring teams, despite how good their defense may be (3-8 vs. top 10 scoring teams), and against teams that hardly turn the ball over (4-9 vs. top 10 least turnover prone teams). And the Bulls have had a very good run with injuries so far this season, unlike previous years. If someone like Hinrich went down, they'd be in big trouble. And if Francis went down for the Magic they would be in a lot of trouble too. Stating the obvious
January 30, 200521 yr i really dont think magic have an edge on the bulls at all. But I still predict a 6th or 7th finish for us.
January 30, 200521 yr Just don't finish 8th seed and we got a chance at the 2nd round. Although, 8th seed is better than nothing. Making the playoffs would put us way ahead of where we should be. Making it is gonna be hard as hell though, February is gonna be a very telling month.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 07:03 AM) And if Francis went down for the Magic they would be in a lot of trouble too. Stating the obvious It could actually be a blessing in disguise. I think in 2 years, Francis will be a very good candidate to be traded, for this team to take the next step, and I think they may just do that if Jameer Nelson can prove he can handle the load of being a starting PG.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 02:57 AM) Yes, because the magic are so much better than the bulls. I think the Magic are a lot better than the Bulls, not being bias because the Magic are my team but they have veteren leaders.. The Bulls are young, they are playing well but Ill take Franchise, Grant Hill, and Christie over the Bulls top 3 players
January 31, 200521 yr Francis is obviously better than anyone on the bulls. But Grant Hill is so injury prone as of late that id rather not have him and Christie isnt that good either.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 02:37 PM) Francis is obviously better than anyone on the bulls. But Grant Hill is so injury prone as of late that id rather not have him and Christie isnt that good either. Francis is a monster and hill shouldn't get injured now that his surgery actually got done correctly. Bu the bulls have three to five players better than christie without a doubt.
January 31, 200521 yr Steve Francis is a must-have fantasy player who you don't want on your actual team, similar to Stephon Marbury. These guys are not winners. I think that the Magic are a good team. I went as far as to say that they're better than the Lakers back in mid-December, IIRC (not so sure about that right now on Jan 31, however). Howard hasn't been as effective as he was through early December, which isn't that big of a surprise. He had 10 or more rebounds in each of his first 15 games. Man Of Steel, you should mention Dwight Howard first and foremost when discussing the key players on the Magic, and not some flashy turnover-prone point guard with a shoot first mentality. These turnover numbers are disgusting: Steve Francis Profile This ain't a Brooklyn playground or whatever...this is professional basketball. Teams win, not individuals. Of course, Grant Hill and Doug Christie are excellent role players, and you can't really front on the center combo of Cato/Battie. Together, they're effective. They'll get waxed in the playoffs, but they're a good team...despite Mr. Francis.
February 1, 200521 yr QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 09:34 AM) Steve Francis is a must-have fantasy player who you don't want on your actual team, similar to Stephon Marbury. These guys are not winners. I think that the Magic are a good team. I went as far as to say that they're better than the Lakers back in mid-December, IIRC (not so sure about that right now on Jan 31, however). Howard hasn't been as effective as he was through early December, which isn't that big of a surprise. He had 10 or more rebounds in each of his first 15 games. Man Of Steel, you should mention Dwight Howard first and foremost when discussing the key players on the Magic, and not some flashy turnover-prone point guard with a shoot first mentality. These turnover numbers are disgusting: Steve Francis Profile This ain't a Brooklyn playground or whatever...this is professional basketball. Teams win, not individuals. Of course, Grant Hill and Doug Christie are excellent role players, and you can't really front on the center combo of Cato/Battie. Together, they're effective. They'll get waxed in the playoffs, but they're a good team...despite Mr. Francis. Dwight Howard is really going to be a monster in 2 years. And Hammer's right, for this team to move forward in the next few years, Steve Francis will probably have be to be moved. He could be traded for a pass first point guard like Mike Bibby, or if Jameer Nelson can prove he can handle the load, they could try to trade Francis for a fairly good center. Cato has been pretty good this season, when he's been healthy, and that hasn't been too often.
February 1, 200521 yr QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 04:34 PM) Man Of Steel, you should mention Dwight Howard first and foremost when discussing the key players on the Magic, and not some flashy turnover-prone point guard with a shoot first mentality. I didnt mention Howard because he was a rookie, and I was just talking bout the veteren players they have as opposed to the Bulls but I know Howard is a key player.. Francis may have a lot of turnovers but so does Dwayne Wade, Kobe, Iverson, and even LeBron.. That just happens when you handle the ball a lot more than everyone else.. I dont mind is Steve is a shoot first guy, but to defend him he still avgs 6.9 Assists Per Game which is good for 9th overall in the league..
February 1, 200521 yr My predictions are that the Bulls finish 44-38, 6th Seed and they will play the 3rd seed (Philadelphia 40-42) in the 1st round. Note: Philly would be the 3rd seed because they would be 1st in their division (Atlantic). Finals Seeding: 1) Miami 2) Cleveland 3) Philadelphia 4) Washington 5) Detroit 6) Chicago 7) Boston 8) Orlando
February 1, 200521 yr QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 03:47 PM) My predictions are that the Bulls finish 44-38, 6th Seed and they will play the 3rd seed (Philadelphia 40-42) in the 1st round. Note: Philly would be the 3rd seed because they would be 1st in their division (Atlantic). Finals Seeding: 1) Miami 2) Cleveland 3) Philadelphia 4) Washington 5) Detroit 6) Chicago 7) Boston 8) Orlando Indiana's going to be in the playoffs. Guarantee.
February 1, 200521 yr QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 04:23 PM) Anyone else thing another lottery pick is bettter than a playoff series loss? I really don't think there's going to be that many great players this year in the draft. If I were a Bulls fan, I think it may be best to see them finally get there, and at least get some playoff experience under their belts.
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