February 3, 200521 yr Patriotism over price. Cost Trumps Patriotism in Flag Pin Flap OTTAWA (Reuters) - The next time a Canadian official hands you a lapel pin bearing an image of the country's maple leaf flag, take a closer look. That symbol of patriotism was likely made in China. Opposition legislator Charlie Angus attacked the Liberal government on Wednesday for ordering millions of "inferior quality" pins from a Chinese supplier rather than the Canadian factory that has been making them for 35 years. "They are selling off our cultural heritage like a bunch of roadside hucksters selling off hubcaps and velvet Elvis paintings," Angus told Parliament. Public Works Minister Scott Brison, whose department buys the pins, said the Chinese pins were cheaper. But this did not satisfy Angus, a member of the left-leaning New Democrats. "We're outsourcing the fundamental symbol of what Canada is to a foreign country. I think that's a scandal," he told reporters. Canadian officials and members of Parliament traditionally hand out the pins as presents. Transport Minister Jean Lapierre said that to demand maple leaf pins be made by Canadian suppliers was bad policy for a country so dependent on international trade. "I think we need to follow our procurement rules rather than falling into an existential crisis on this subject," he told reporters.
February 3, 200521 yr QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) Patriotism over price. Cost Trumps Patriotism in Flag Pin Flap OTTAWA (Reuters) - The next time a Canadian official hands you a lapel pin bearing an image of the country's maple leaf flag, take a closer look. That symbol of patriotism was likely made in China. Opposition legislator Charlie Angus attacked the Liberal government on Wednesday for ordering millions of "inferior quality" pins from a Chinese supplier rather than the Canadian factory that has been making them for 35 years. "They are selling off our cultural heritage like a bunch of roadside hucksters selling off hubcaps and velvet Elvis paintings," Angus told Parliament. Public Works Minister Scott Brison, whose department buys the pins, said the Chinese pins were cheaper. But this did not satisfy Angus, a member of the left-leaning New Democrats. "We're outsourcing the fundamental symbol of what Canada is to a foreign country. I think that's a scandal," he told reporters. Canadian officials and members of Parliament traditionally hand out the pins as presents. Transport Minister Jean Lapierre said that to demand maple leaf pins be made by Canadian suppliers was bad policy for a country so dependent on international trade. "I think we need to follow our procurement rules rather than falling into an existential crisis on this subject," he told reporters. I love this line I think that's a scandal The Liberals of Canada are being accused of everything right now, this is the least of their worries.
February 3, 200521 yr QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) Canada makes me laugh. Yah you guys too!
February 3, 200521 yr QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) Canada makes me laugh. Politically the U.S. makes me cry.
February 3, 200521 yr Does this explain Nickelback, Sum 41, Avril Lavigne, Alanis Morissette and Dave Coulier?
February 3, 200521 yr Canada, as much as I love your bacon and beer, please keep the above "celebrities" within your borders. Celine Dion too. Love, winodj.
February 3, 200521 yr QUOTE(winodj @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) Canada, as much as I love your bacon and beer, please keep the above "celebrities" within your borders. Celine Dion too. Love, winodj. No no you can have them. We'll even throw in Anne Murray!
February 3, 200521 yr QUOTE(Mathew @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 04:16 PM) Politically the U.S. makes me cry. That's too bad, I really like this country politically.
February 4, 200521 yr Will you're going to have to do some explaining on why you laugh at Canada and like your country politically.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 05:28 PM) That's too bad, I really like this country politically. Umm...being a political junkie that I am, I'm gonna bite -- what's to really like about the choices we get in this country?
February 4, 200521 yr I'd rather live in this country then any other country. That's why what some people think are major problems for the country, I think they're pretty minor. But I'm a political junkie too, for a 19 year old at least.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) That's why what some people think are major problems for the country, I think they're pretty minor.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 07:29 PM) words of Peter Griffin"What........Canada sucks!"
February 4, 200521 yr Personally, I'm grateful to Canada for Moe Berg and his group, The Pursuit Of Happiness! I loved that band!
February 4, 200521 yr What's with all the Canadian hatin'? WTF did they ever do to us? Sheesh, some of the people that live in this country don't deserve this country.
February 4, 200521 yr I like Rush even though they suck, must be a Canadian thing, plus I gotta like out Hot Chick champion from Canada Ms. Cuthbert.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 06:21 PM) I'd rather live in this country then any other country. That's why what some people think are major problems for the country, I think they're pretty minor. But I'm a political junkie too, for a 19 year old at least. If I was wealthy I'd really love to live in the U.S. too, but I wouldn't otherwise. I'd hardly consider the unbelieveable borrowing, the Billions sunk into the offensive weaponization of space and the millions of people without health care minor problems but, since you do I'll let you be.
February 4, 200521 yr The problem here is that while the Canadian Govt. is probably urging its citizens to 'Buy Canadian', they them selves did not. Kind of a 'do as I say, not as I do' thing. I encounter this in my business, where the local government has many 'Buy in Bloomingdale' ads, promotions, etc., but I lost out on a $4000 print job to a company in Wisconsin, by $79. For a $79 savings, they sent work, and money OUT of Illinois, and out of Bloomingdale, and into Wisconsin. So much for supporting local businesses. That is what the one guy was trying to say. They COULD have purchased them from a local company, but to save a little scratch, they sent the job to China. The story didn't say what the cost savings was, but if it was only 5% or 10%, they purchasing guy should re-evaluate his purchase criteria.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(Mathew @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 10:20 PM) I like Rush even though they suck, must be a Canadian thing, plus I gotta like out Hot Chick champion from Canada Ms. Cuthbert. I wouldn't say Rush sucks - not everybody's cup of tea, perhaps. Now Chilliwack on the other hand... they sucked. The verdict is still out on Kim Mitchell, with a probable forecast of maybe 60% suck.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 4, 2005 -> 03:52 AM) Now Chilliwack on the other hand... they sucked. Chilliwack? Did they sing 'She Gone' or something like that? That one was a good song. Heard it on XM tonight on my way home. I couldn't tell you anything else they did, though.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 11:27 PM) Chilliwack? Did they sing 'She Gone' or something like that? That one was a good song. Heard it on XM tonight on my way home. I couldn't tell you anything else they did, though. Actually they did "My Girl (Gone, Gone, Gone)," and "Watcha Gonna Do When I'm Gone," so take your pick. For my monet, they were always a poor man's Big Star/Badfinger hybrid. As for current Canadian groups, Big Sugar is the one I really get into.
February 4, 200521 yr Author QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 10:34 PM) As for current Canadian groups, Big Sugar is the one I really get into. I myself would pull for Les Cowboys Frigants: funny, intelligent and dashing.
February 4, 200521 yr QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Feb 3, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) I myself would pull for Les Cowboys Frigants: funny, intelligent and dashing. Dashing?!? Stop being such a chick.
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