BamaDoc Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I have not seen him in action. What allows him to steal so well? Blinding speed, great reads, great acceleration or some combination of the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(BamaDoc @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 09:05 AM) I have not seen him in action. What allows him to steal so well? Blinding speed, great reads, great acceleration or some combination of the above? Good lead-offs, very fast, and he is not hesitant to steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I also recall Pods saying he studies pitchers a lot by watching a lot of tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I think he's going to be a lot of fun to watch this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 09:46 AM) I think he's going to be a lot of fun to watch this year. Definitely his speed and good reads off the pitcher. I saw a game ones on WGN Cubs vs. Brewers where he stole third easily. Cant wait to see him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 125 Stolen Bases next year, just you wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 i cant wait to watch him it be like ray durham all over but better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 He shoudl love playing against the Tribe. They gave up a division leading 117 SB's last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pods70Rowand33 Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I'm pumped for this season with him at the top. I love stolen bases. Something we really havent had much of. I hated watching Harris, waiting for him to steal, and then he wouldn't. Now we have a guy that isnt afraid to be thrown out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 10:54 AM) 125 Stolen Bases next year, just you wait and see. he has to get on base 125 times first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 09:46 AM) I think he's going to be a lot of fun to watch this year. Hell yeah, I can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmatt Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Pods is going to be fun to watch. I dont expect him to steal 70 but maybe 60. He gets great reads and is very fast. He isnt as fast as some guys but he is the smartest base stealer in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxmatt @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) Pods is going to be fun to watch. I dont expect him to steal 70 but maybe 60. He gets great reads and is very fast. He isnt as fast as some guys but he is the smartest base stealer in the league. I would say beltran is the smartest base stealer as much as i think he is overated. He has been safe over 90% of the time in his career. That is just about as good as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) I would say beltran is the smartest base stealer as much as i think he is overated. He has been safe over 90% of the time in his career. That is just about as good as it gets. Abreu is a great base stealer too, 40 sb only 5 cs last season. 88%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) Abreu is a great base stealer too, 40 sb only 5 cs last season. 88%. He is a good base stealer for the type of hitter he is. He has 210 steals and 69 times he was caught. Beltran has 192 steals and has only be caught 23 times. His rookie year he was caught the most time of his career, eight times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) I would say beltran is the smartest base stealer as much as i think he is overated. He has been safe over 90% of the time in his career. That is just about as good as it gets. that is as good as it gets, but beltran is also an oppertunistic base stealer, running only on the pitchers easier to run on. gusy like pierre and podsednik have it much harder, in that opposing catchers and pitchers know they are gonna steal all the time, and pierre and pods run on the good pitchers/catchers and on the bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 QUOTE(daa84 @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 03:50 PM) that is as good as it gets, but beltran is also an oppertunistic base stealer, running only on the pitchers easier to run on. gusy like pierre and podsednik have it much harder, in that opposing catchers and pitchers know they are gonna steal all the time, and pierre and pods run on the good pitchers/catchers and on the bad Last year Juan Pierre stole 45 bases and was caught 24 times. Beltran Stole 42 bases and was caught 3 times. So Beltran picks proper times to steal instead of just running all the time and getting thrown out over half the time. I'd rather have a guy who picks his spots and stays on base than I guy who just runs all the time and is taking himself off the basebath 50 something percent of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdhargo Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 A lot of what Pods does SB-wise depends on his OBP, obviously. In 2003, w/ an OBP of .379, Pods goes 43-10 on the basepathes (81%) In 2004, w/ an OBP of .313, Pods goes 70-13 on the basepathes (84%) So, the guy steals 33 more bags with an OBP 66 pts lower. How the hell can one forecast/trend from that? I think all anyone can do is speculate and guesstimate. I'm going to throw out a ceiling of .375/75-15 and a floor of .330/45-10. Then again, he could run rampant and steal 80+ with either a .380 OBP or .315 OBP. *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvjeremylv Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 QUOTE(Jake @ Feb 6, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) he has to get on base 125 times first Not really. He can just steal 2nd and 3rd a few dozen times, then he'll only have to get on base 75 or 80 times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 A lot of what Pods does SB-wise depends on his OBP, obviously. In 2003, w/ an OBP of .379, Pods goes 43-10 on the basepathes (81%) In 2004, w/ an OBP of .313, Pods goes 70-13 on the basepathes (84%) So, the guy steals 33 more bags with an OBP 66 pts lower. How the hell can one forecast/trend from that? I think all anyone can do is speculate and guesstimate. I'm going to throw out a ceiling of .375/75-15 and a floor of .330/45-10. Then again, he could run rampant and steal 80+ with either a .380 OBP or .315 OBP. *shrugs* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Again I really think we need to look at which pitcher's he stole the bases against because that's a big factor in all of this. It could just be the change in rotations in the NLC in 04 led to many more opportunities. One thing for certain he will have a field day vs CLE. They are horrible in defending the SB. Gave up 117 last year. Worst by far in the ALC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) Again I really think we need to look at which pitcher's he stole the bases against because that's a big factor in all of this. It could just be the change in rotations in the NLC in 04 led to many more opportunities. One thing for certain he will have a field day vs CLE. They are horrible in defending the SB. Gave up 117 last year. Worst by far in the ALC. What was Victor Martinez's CS%? I thought he was pretty decent at throwing guys out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:57 PM) What was Victor Martinez's CS%? I thought he was pretty decent at throwing guys out. .252cs% and 4.98 cera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) .252cs% and 4.98 cera. huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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