Did Losman go to Clemson?  For some reason I thought he went somewhere else.

Tulane

Did Losman go to Clemson?  For some reason I thought he went somewhere else.

 

Tulane for Losman

Losman went to Tulane with Roydell Williams.

Tulane for Losman

Cool I knew it wasn't Clemson.

Orlovsky goes to the Lions. So much for the rumors that they loved McPherson.

There are a handful of QB's more talented than Orton that went after him.

There are a handful of QB's more talented than Orton that went after him.

 

Yeah I didnt like the Orton pick.. I think Orlovski would have been a better choice

Yeah I didnt like the Orton pick.. I think Orlovski would have been a better choice

Or LaFors for sure.

There are a handful of QB's more talented than Orton that went after him.

 

Orton sucks. He has absolutely no upside, and I'm not sure he's any better than Krenzel (which is almost impossible to believe).

ORton has a very strong arm and has been a cold weather player. He plays in a wide open offense and only threw 5 interceptions. He did a nice job reading defenses and is 1000 times the player Krenzel ever was (if were talking about offensive abilities).

Orton has a much better arm than Krenzel.... I personally would of liked us to take a chance and go and get Adrian McPherson.... but oh well, when have we been known to take risks.

Agree 101, McPherson was the lone QB on the board who I had rated higher than Orton in terms of pro potential. Problem with McPherson is I can't look past his gambling problems. He definately appears to have his head on straight now though and he's as good of tools as any qb in the draft, imo (although I happen to really like Alex Smith).

Orton was a product of Purdue's offense. In games where the opposition took away the short pass, he was bad. I just think that in the 4th round, you should pick guys who can develop into big time players, and not be likely career back-ups. A guy like McPherson would have given us another dimension. I would have much rather seen Mike Williams, J.J. Arrington, and McPherson instead of Benson, Bradley, and Orton. The Currie pick has been our best value pick so far.

Adrian to the Saints. He will learn under Aaron Brooks, thats a pretty good comparison for his game also.

McPherson is basically a Brooks clone. A great potential pick by the Saints there.

I've yet to find a site list Orlovsky over Orton.

Could money have been a factor as far as picking Orton over McPherson?

 

Is the NFL draft and signing picks basically, where you go, you'll get that type of money. Or is it more like the baseball draft, where, if you have a crazy enough agent (ehem, Boras), you could get a lot of money no matter where you're picked?

I believe the signing price and bonus are set for each round and selection. But occasionally a team can add a little more if its a special selection like Adrian or someone who is choosing between baseball and football. I could be wrong though.

Could money have been a factor as far as picking Orton over McPherson?

 

Is the NFL draft and signing picks basically, where you go, you'll get that type of money.  Or is it more like the baseball draft, where, if you have a crazy enough agent (ehem, Boras), you could get a lot of money no matter where you're picked?

There's no rigid slotting, but b/c of the cap-within-a-cap for your draft picks, there's not much leeway. I doubt the choice had anything to do with money, I think the Bears (along with basically the entire NFL) were scared away by his past.

 

I don't know much about him, but from what I've read I'm beginning to like the Orton pick...

I am absolutely shocked Gerald Sensabaugh is falling this far. This is a safety at 6' 1/2 210 pounds, 4.46 40, 46 inch vertical leap and a very solid tackler. His coverage skills need some refinement because UNC had no pass rush in his year here, but he's an absolute diamond in the rough.

I am absolutely shocked Gerald Sensabaugh is falling this far. This is a safety at 6' 1/2 210 pounds, 4.46 40, 46 inch vertical leap and a very solid tackler. His coverage skills need some refinement because UNC had no pass rush in his year here, but he's an absolute diamond in the rough.

 

was he one of the guys smoking weed at the combines?

Also, I love reading experts talking about these prospects, it makes me feel better that I can't remember anything about them. So far today I've seen a Robert Mathis, wr and Mark Rix, qb.

There you go palehose, JAX just grabbed your boy.

Edited April 24, 200521 yr by WHarris1

No he wasn't Murcie. Congrats to Jacksonville, they got a good one. Now I can stop my whining .

Isn't Berlin on the WR depth chart as well?