June 20, 200520 yr i know most of you hate espn and place no stock in their assessments, but buster olney is pretty good...heres what he said in his chat today. it hasnt sounded like kenny has wanted to move crede but maybe he will. personally, i dont want to see crede go for randa. everyone loves randa, but hes old, and is a .260-.270 hitter who will give 15 homers and play solid 3b. Id rather have crede hit .250 with 25 homers and play excellent D Paul (Chicago): Buster, always enjoy your thoughts in your columns. Any chance Kenny Williams makes a move for a Rusch/Wakefield/Leiter type who can spot start when needed? What about making a move for Joe Randa to replace the atrocious Joe Crede? Buster Olney: (11:40 AM ET ) Paul: I don't think they ahve a need for a another starter, but I totally agree with you about Crede -- he really doesn't fit their style of play,because he's a big swing and miss guy in a lineup in which contact is really valued. Supposedly, according to other executives, you could make a deal for Crede right now, and I also agree with you that Randa would be an excellent fit for them, because he knows the league, he's a good third baseman (at least he was the last time I saw him play in person, last year), and he'll put the ball in play.
June 20, 200520 yr "You could make a deal for Crede right now." Interesting. If he's so atrocious, I wonder why all these GM's would want him.
June 20, 200520 yr "......the atrocious Joe Crede"? A lot of people on here said they'd be happy if Joe hits .250, he's at .244 right now. I want .270 minimum.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) "You could make a deal for Crede right now." Interesting. If he's so atrocious, I wonder why all these GM's would want him. Potential?
June 20, 200520 yr Joe Crede looks like he's swinging Thor's Hammer at the dish. That bat looks heavy as hell..... especially after contact with the ball is made and the bat comes parallel to his back.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:52 AM) i know most of you hate espn and place no stock in their assessments, but buster olney is pretty good...heres what he said in his chat today. it hasnt sounded like kenny has wanted to move crede but maybe he will. personally, i dont want to see crede go for randa. everyone loves randa, but hes old, and is a .260-.270 hitter who will give 15 homers and play solid 3b. Id rather have crede hit .250 with 25 homers and play excellent D Joe Randa is not a .260-.270 hitter he's a .285-.295 hitter. Check his career stats.
June 20, 200520 yr id love to see mr randa at the hot corner and though its not too much of a stretch at the shot aquiring him i just got a gut feeling cruddy is going nowhere...but hopefully im wrong
June 20, 200520 yr Any way to upgrade at 3rd would be fine by me, unless Crede actually becomes the player he is susposed to be and starts to hit well, and not .250 well, like .280 well.
June 20, 200520 yr Aaaaaand they're off ... I sense a White Sox Josh sighting at any moment, with Joe Randa pictured in a Sox hat. The guy who wrote in is probably on either this site or WSI, and Buster Olney is the same guy who didn't know half of the players the White Sox had at the beginning of this year. His info pipeline seems to be a little off.
June 20, 200520 yr Personally, i'm just amazed at how rapidly Joe went from having an amazing and functional swing in the first few weeks of the season back to flying open and swinging for the fences every time he's up.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:09 AM) Personally, i'm just amazed at how rapidly Joe went from having an amazing and functional swing in the first few weeks of the season back to flying open and swinging for the fences every time he's up. Good old Joe is back. He was taking a break the first few weeks of the season.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) Personally, i'm just amazed at how rapidly Joe went from having an amazing and functional swing in the first few weeks of the season back to flying open and swinging for the fences every time he's up. I've been able to watch the last two games and I can think of quite a few time Joe's went to right or center in those games.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:18 AM) I've been able to watch the last two games and I can think of quite a few time Joe's went to right or center in those games. That's why he is starting to hit a big again, working the ball to center and to right field. Even yesterday after his first hit he absolutely scorched a ball into centerfield but unfortunately it was right at Drew.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 12:05 PM) Joe Randa is not a .260-.270 hitter he's a .285-.295 hitter. Check his career stats. Randa the once sox killer now the sox thriller??? Well I don't know about this move...even if it is possible. Is it worth risking the chemisty of the team for what may only be a slightly better hitter?? I say no.
June 20, 200520 yr I tend to put more stock in Ozzie's comments than any one else when it comes to Joe Crede. Ozzie clearly likes Joe & views him as a GG 3B even though he's never proven to be one .. yet. What struck me most is when Ozzie recently said if Joe produces 70R & 20HR that's fine by me. The last two yrs he's avg'd 67.5R, & 20HR. Ozzie didn't just pull the figure out of a hat. Does Ozzie think he can pull Joe out of the BorASS stable? Maybe there's something between Ozzie & Joe we don't know about that makes Ozzie think Joe will remain with the White Sox the next few yrs. Crede's current streak? 11H/31AB, 5R, 5RBI. With 300AB to go for the season he's could end up with 78R, & 20HR. Surpassing Ozzie's new lowereed expectations.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) "You could make a deal for Crede right now." Interesting. If he's so atrocious, I wonder why all these GM's would want him. Uh, as to why no GM has made the deal for him...
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(SuperSteve @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:54 AM) Uh, as to why no GM has made the deal for him... You know, I bet if he wasn't a boras client we'd actually have offers... Even when a guy struggles with his first team, if he's shown a lot of talent in the minors, usually there'll be a couple of teams who are willing to give you something for him thinking that their hitting coaches will work where ours have failed.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 05:27 PM) Randa the once sox killer now the sox thriller??? Well I don't know about this move...even if it is possible. Is it worth risking the chemisty of the team for what may only be a slightly better hitter?? I say no. Depends, what kind of a clubhouse guy is Randa supposed to be?
June 20, 200520 yr unless KW is flying under the radar I can't see Crede going anywhere. Ozzie has called him the Garland of 2004 and he expects him to be the Garland of 2005 next season. He always praises his defense as well. The only move i see happening is getting another arm or 2. We can possibly get a solid reliever as well as a solid spot starter- just in case El-duque's arm is seriously injured and BMac doesn't pan out.
June 20, 200520 yr QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) The only move i see happening is getting another arm or 2. We can possibly get a solid reliever as well as a solid spot starter- just in case El-duque's arm is seriously injured and BMac doesn't pan out. This next stretch could determine that. Hell, there's even been rumblings of BMac keeping the starting spot if he earns it and El Duque becoming long-relief when he gets back.
June 20, 200520 yr Hypothetically, even with edwin encarnacion the Reds would do a Randa for Crede swap right?
June 20, 200520 yr what is Randa's contract situation anyway? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hypothetically, even with edwin encarnacion the Reds would do a Randa for Crede swap right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't see why not. Randa is 35 years old and he's only under a 1-year, $2.15 million contract. Edited June 20, 200520 yr by Jabroni
June 20, 200520 yr Actually Joe crushed a few balls last night I believe, they were just in the vicinity of Drew.
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