Southside hitmen Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 As they desperately try to find starters, just two words for the Yankees: "El" and "Duque." Unlike several other so-called pitchers they've acquired in recent years, Orlando Hernandez is proven in the American League. More to the point, he's proven in New York. Plus, he's usually a monster in October. And the Yankees shouldn't give up on October. Not yet, they shouldn't. A Yankees person said they actually did call about Hernandez several weeks ago, well before their pitching situation grew this desperate. However, they were told the White Sox couldn't trade Hernandez unless they could first acquire a hard-throwing starter such as A.J. Burnett or Jason Schmidt. The Yankees' own chances to land Burnett took a major hit when Chien-Ming Wang went down with shoulder trouble. Anyway, one scout cautioned, "Burnett's not the guy for New York," adding, "With his stuff, he should be a lot better than [37-38]." Florida seeks a prime major league-ready starter and significant bullpen piece for Burnett, who's in his walk year. The Orioles rebuffed Daniel Cabrera for Burnett. The White Sox probably would have to surrender dynamic young righthander Brandon McCarthy for a shot at Burnett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 A ringing endorsement from his former employer...believe it or not, but that's encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Hey if they want to give us Robinson Cano, they can have El Duque. Otherwise, f*** off NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That funky motion Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 08:52 AM) Otherwise, f*** off NY. Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Montana Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 09:52 AM) Hey if they want to give us Robinson Cano, they can have El Duque. Otherwise, f*** off NY. Edited July 17, 2005 by Ozzie Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsox08 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 f*** NY anyway..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I have long believed Hernandez wouldn't finish the year here and I still don't think he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside hitmen Posted July 17, 2005 Author Share Posted July 17, 2005 They can have Hernandez back but I want Flash Gordon in return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArow33 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 The arrogance of the Yankees calling US about our major league leading rotation. Let's ask that team that has 60 wins if they'll help us get to the post-season. They pretty much have to sell to us because we're the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankensteiner Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 09:52 AM) Hey if they want to give us Robinson Cano, they can have El Duque. Otherwise, f*** off NY. If we can get a better starter through trade (Burnett, Schmidt, etc.), I would cut our losses and get rid of his salary for next season. Edited July 17, 2005 by Frankensteiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I won't shed a tear for a second if we trade Duque. Like someone just said, we'd be better off without his salary on the books. And I don't see any chance in hell that he pitches for the Sox in the playoffs. Experience or not, he's just not as good as our other 4 pitchers this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 If the Sox get Burnett or Schmidt without giving up one of the other starters, than I'd definately deal Duque to the Yanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 In a way, duque has been like how schow was for us last year. Good at the beginning, but injury plagued. If the sox are trading for a starter, nobody would care if duque is gone, especially if we get a BP arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 If we got Lilly then I would leg-kick Duque out of here without hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I'm willing to stick with El Duque. Calm down people, when healthy he was tied with Freddy as a top 3 starter in the rotation. I'm confident he's finally healthy and we'll see how it goes. We'll get to see at least 2 starts from El Duque before the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 09:37 AM) As they desperately try to find starters, just two words for the Yankees: "El" and "Duque." Unlike several other so-called pitchers they've acquired in recent years, Orlando Hernandez is proven in the American League. More to the point, he's proven in New York. Plus, he's usually a monster in October. And the Yankees shouldn't give up on October. Not yet, they shouldn't. A Yankees person said they actually did call about Hernandez several weeks ago, well before their pitching situation grew this desperate. However, they were told the White Sox couldn't trade Hernandez unless they could first acquire a hard-throwing starter such as A.J. Burnett or Jason Schmidt. The Yankees' own chances to land Burnett took a major hit when Chien-Ming Wang went down with shoulder trouble. Anyway, one scout cautioned, "Burnett's not the guy for New York," adding, "With his stuff, he should be a lot better than [37-38]." Florida seeks a prime major league-ready starter and significant bullpen piece for Burnett, who's in his walk year. The Orioles rebuffed Daniel Cabrera for Burnett. The White Sox probably would have to surrender dynamic young righthander Brandon McCarthy for a shot at Burnett. 3 way deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 After watching Garland's panties climb up his ass at the AS game, I want some guy with experience who Buehrle, Garland, and Freddy can look to for advice. That's why I thought KW got him in the first place. Give me the Duke in October, you can have Burnett, Schmidt, you name 'em. Give me the Duke. The man knows what a big game is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 02:52 PM) Hey if they want to give us Robinson Cano, they can have El Duque. Otherwise, f*** off NY. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What attracts you about a terrible defensive player, with horrid range, that lacks the power to play first or third? If Cano develops as Soriano did, I'll eat my words, but its more than likely especially considering Cano has no foot speed, that he will not be half the player that Soriano is. Now of course if Cano is part of a larger package, I am all for trading El Duque for him and then shipping him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Schmidt has been excellent in the postseason overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyho7476 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I've had enough of Duque...if they can trade him to NY....go ahead. He has single handedly ruined 2 sox games I went to...and watching him pitch is like watching paint dry....he goes from 0-2 to 3-2 more than anyone I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 At this point, the sox should hang onto El Duque. Nothing the Yanks have could help the sox. And with their improved play as of late, why help them make the playoffs. As long as Orlando's healthy for the playoffs, his experience should come in handy. If the sox get another SP, El Duque could always throw in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I think El Duque in his 2 starts this week is going to render all this trade talk mute, both talk of him and any other starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(upnorthsox @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 08:38 PM) I think El Duque in his 2 starts this week is going to render all this trade talk mute, both talk of him and any other starter. You mean there will be people on this board saying El Duque could win the Cy young after one or two starts?! That won't happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 08:52 AM) Hey if they want to give us Robinson Cano, they can have El Duque. Otherwise, f*** off NY. I agree with the second part............f*** OFF NY!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 We're a little too friendly when making trades with the Yankees. They didn't want Hernandez over the offseason, that's their loss so screw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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