THEWOOD Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 11:24 PM) The difference is all those teams with the exception of OSU have 1 or no losses, you make a good point though. and the losses OSU has are to UT and PSU ranked 2 and 6... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-MAN Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 06:02 PM) Eventhough I dislike ND, to be fair you have to discount the loss to USC. If most of the other teams that you are asking about played USC, they would also have 2 losses. That is just giving credit where it is due, and honestly I do not think PSU is that great. They beat Wisconsin, but even as bad as Wisconsin played PSU never could really finish and it was a home game for them. There is a legitimate chance PSU will not beat MSU. SB Yeah we know - and according to you they have the best offense in the Big Ten - NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-MAN Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 01:22 AM) they aren't better than Va Tech or Penn State. But yet you don't think Penn State will beat MSU!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(J-MAN @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:47 AM) NOT Dude, 1993 called and they want their phrase back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(J-MAN @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:50 AM) But yet you don't think Penn State will beat MSU!!!!! because Michigan State needs to win this game. Plus Crazy s*** happens in College Football. MSU isn't a better team than PSU yet they can still beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) Comparing who teams lost to is a bad line of logic when trying to compare teams. Arguing what would happen if the two teams played is even more asanine because none of us know what would happen. Notre Dame is a better team because they played and lost to USC? There are no moral victories in big time college football. Comparing their victories makes much more sense because it gives you a better idea of what they've accomplished. At this point Notre Dame's signiture game is a loss. The plain and simple truth is that Notre Dame's schedule is not as difficult as we had originally thought. Only two teams that they have defeated have winning records: the 5-4 BYU Cougars and the 6-3 Michigan Wolverines, who are less than stellar without Mike Hart. On top of that, ND needed some horrible plays by Michigan in the red zone to prevail. They simply haven't been tested very much. Their accomplishments are fairly similar to Georgia (albiet their 1 loss to Florida came without their starting QB) and FSU (better win, but possibly even weaker schedule, and less than stellar defeats). However, compare their accomplishments to Alabama (undefeated with a win over Florida), LSU (1 loss to Tennessee where they blew the game with wins over 7-2 Auburn and Florida), Penn State (loss to Michigan, but wins over OSU, Wisconsin, and 6-3 Minnesota), Ohio State (2 losses to Texas and Penn State, beat Minnesota and MSU), Miami (1 loss to FSU where they dominated the game with wins over 7-2 Colorado and Va Tech), and Va Tech (1 loss to Miami with wins over 6-2 Ga Tech, 7-1 West Virginia, and 6-3 BC), the Irish's wins don't stack up very well. Hell, Oregon has more impressive wins (Cal, ASU, Fresno State) and only 1 loss to USC. What have the Irish really accomplished? Basically they looked good in their 2 losses and beat up on some weak teams. To me, that's not what makes a top 10 team. They may be able to compete with some of these teams, but we won't know until the bowls. They have a good offense, but their defense isn't spectacular, as shown by the fact that they allow about 25 points per game. Another thing to consider with these teams is that all of them have chances to improve their resume, while Notre Dame has nothing but creampuffs left. Edited November 7, 2005 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Suddenly, 7-2 Colorado looks a ton better when you consider their losses - Miami and Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Suddenly, 7-2 Colorado looks a ton better when you consider their losses - Miami and Texas. Have fun stopping Vickers and their TEs. Typical Gary Barnett team. Pound the f***ing football until the other team cries for mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 QUOTE(danman31 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) Have fun stopping Vickers and their TEs. Typical Gary Barnett team. Pound the f***ing football until the other team cries for mercy. The ISU run D has been as good as it has in a long time. I'm more worried about the ISU CB's. That being said, hopefully there's a lot more Kock this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 How good would Colorado be with Brian Calhoun? SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 So, I'm rooting for Baylor this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 So i'll be at the Notre Dame game Saturday, 10th row. Thanks grandma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 01:33 PM) So i'll be at the Notre Dame game Saturday, 10th row. Thanks grandma. Freaking awesome. I'm jealous. Hopefully you'll be watching an ND drubbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 http://media.putfile.com/Florida24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEWOOD Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 07:00 PM) http://media.putfile.com/Florida24 thats a sweet video....should be a great game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 This Afternoon: Showers and thunderstorms likely. Some of the storms could be severe, with damaging winds. Cloudy, with a high around 67. Windy, with a south southwest wind around 23 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible. Tonight: A chance of showers and thunderstorms before 9pm, then a slight chance of showers between 9pm and midnight. Partly cloudy, with a low around 42. Windy, with a west southwest wind between 23 and 26 mph, with gusts as high as 39 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible Should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 TOUCHDOWN BLACK & YELLOW! 17-10 Iowa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 20-10 Iowa Final. Kirk Ferrentz, THANK YOU! My Predictions for the Big Ten Bowl Games are this: Orange Bowl: Michigan Sugar Bowl: Penn State Capitol One Bowl: Wisconsin Outback Bowl: Ohio State Sun Bowl: Northwestern Alamo Bowl: Minnesota Motor City Bowl: Iowa Shame on you for counting out Michigan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted November 12, 2005 Author Share Posted November 12, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 06:56 PM) Shame on you for counting out Michigan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Canes win 47-17... Damn 1st game of the season vs FSU , they gave that one away and it will hurt them. Should be playing USC for National Title... best Offense vs best Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 05:56 PM) 20-10 Iowa Final. Kirk Ferrentz, THANK YOU! My Predictions for the Big Ten Bowl Games are this: Orange Bowl: Michigan Sugar Bowl: Penn State Capitol One Bowl: Wisconsin Outback Bowl: Ohio State Sun Bowl: Northwestern Alamo Bowl: Minnesota Motor City Bowl: Iowa Shame on you for counting out Michigan! BCS 1: Penn State BCS 2: Ohio State Cap One: Michigan Outback: Wisconsin Alamo: Iowa Sun: Minnesota Motor City: NW I don't remember the complete set of rules when it comes to Bowl selection, but expect everyone to avoid NW at all cost. Minnesota or NW could force the Alamo's hand if they finish 2 games better than Iowa. Given the choice on those bottom three though, it's going to be Iowa, Minn, NW every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEWOOD Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 06:56 PM) 20-10 Iowa Final. Kirk Ferrentz, THANK YOU! My Predictions for the Big Ten Bowl Games are this: Orange Bowl: Michigan Sugar Bowl: Penn State Capitol One Bowl: Wisconsin Outback Bowl: Ohio State Sun Bowl: Northwestern Alamo Bowl: Minnesota Motor City Bowl: Iowa Shame on you for counting out Michigan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 A LOT has to happen for Michigan to win the Big Ten. Penn State and Wisc have to lose, plus they have to beat the Buckeyes next week. Not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 07:32 PM) A LOT has to happen for Michigan to win the Big Ten. Penn State and Wisc have to lose, plus they have to beat the Buckeyes next week. Not looking good. Wisconsin already lost to Iowa. Plus Sparty is capable of beating anybody with that offense. Wisconsin is out of the Big Ten Championship picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Nov 12, 2005 -> 06:18 PM) BCS 1: Penn State BCS 2: Ohio State Cap One: Michigan Outback: Wisconsin Alamo: Iowa Sun: Minnesota Motor City: NW I don't remember the complete set of rules when it comes to Bowl selection, but expect everyone to avoid NW at all cost. Minnesota or NW could force the Alamo's hand if they finish 2 games better than Iowa. Given the choice on those bottom three though, it's going to be Iowa, Minn, NW every time. either way Penn State is in. Also if Michigan does make the BCS Wisconsin will go to the Capitol One Bowl because they have never been their and it is Barry's last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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