Ozuna leads off tonight, playing left.

That's fair.  But it's f***tarded the argument that is trying to be presented that

Buehrle's not an ace.  If Buehrle's not an ace, no pitcher in baseball is an ace.

 

He's not. True aces include, Peavy, Santana, Mulder, Hudson, Halladay, Oswalt, Clemens, Schmidt(when healthy), Johnson(when healthy), Schilling(when healthy), Garland, Livan Hernandez, Colon, Harden. Those guys are aces. They're all great pitchers and have no problems taking out elite teams. It's all the same for them. For Buehrle it's not.

 

BUT HE LOST TO THE RED SOX AND THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!

 

And A's 3 times IIRC, and Minny.

 

I know you're just copying what nite's saying, but I don't know why or what's his reasoning to bring the Yankees into this.  The last times Buehrle saw the Yanks was in April of 2004.  He split those games FWIW.

 

And he got smacked around in one of those games giving up something like 7 or 8 runs in the first 2 innings.

He's not. True aces include, Peavy, Santana, Mulder, Hudson, Halladay, Oswalt, Clemens, Schmidt(when healthy), Johnson(when healthy), Schilling(when healthy), Garland, Livan Hernandez, Colon, Harden. Those guys are aces. They're all great pitchers and have no problems taking out elite teams. It's all the same for them. For Buehrle it's not.

And A's 3 times IIRC, and Minny.

And he got smacked around in one of those games giving up something like 7 or 8 runs in the first 2 innings.

 

And he also went 8 giving up 2 runs in NY. But let's continue to focus on the negatives.

If we're going to focus on one appearance here or there:

9 IP

4 H

1 ER

against the angels in may

 

8.1 IP

3 ER

against the angels in may AGAIN

 

8.2 IP

0 ER

against the padres

 

7 IP

2 ER

against the A's in july

 

6 IP

3 ER

against the Bosox.

 

yeup

MB has been huge this year keeping our SOX with the best record in baseball all season long ! I appreciate him and Jon, they have been warriors and are both aces in my book!

Sorry to doubt you GreasyWheels but I had to see this for myself to to believe it. Ozuna is indeed starting in LF. And look at Boston: no Damon, Milar or Varitek. -If Garland shuts them down they will say he didn't play against the A team.

 

Chicago White Sox
Pablo Ozuna LF .281
Tadahito Iguchi 2B .283
Carl Everett DH .264
Paul Konerko 1B .268
Aaron Rowand CF .285
Jermaine Dye RF .265
A.J. Pierzynski C .270
Joe Crede 3B .243
Juan Uribe SS .248
 Jon Garland P (16-5 3.29)


Boston Red Sox
Gabe Kapler CF .367
Edgar Renteria SS .279
David Ortiz DH .297
Manny Ramirez LF .287
Roberto Petagine 1B .286
Kevin Millar RF .276
Doug Mirabelli C .211
Bill Mueller 3B .289
Tony Graffanino 2B .307
 Tim Wakefield P (11-9 4.13)

Umpires: HP: Ted Barrett 1B: Rob Drake 2B: Rick Reed 3B: Terry Craft

If we're going to focus on one appearance here or there:

9 IP

4 H

1 ER

against the angels in may

 

8.1 IP

3 ER

against the angels in may AGAIN

 

8.2 IP

0 ER

against the padres

 

7 IP

2 ER

against the A's in july

 

6 IP

3 ER

against the Bosox.

 

yeup

 

That boston game could have been less earned runs to as Aaron actually had a bad jump on a ball that he catches 95 percent of the time. Saying Buehrle hasn't been an ace this year is ridiculous absolutely ridiculous.

Calling all chatters!

Well let's hope our OTHER Ace can shut em down tonite........Or at least keep them to less than 4 runs

OK Folks, chat is up and running........Stop by and say hello!

 

 

Ozuna K's on 3 pitches

He's not. True aces include, Peavy, Santana, Mulder, Hudson, Halladay, Oswalt, Clemens, Schmidt(when healthy), Johnson(when healthy), Schilling(when healthy), Garland, Livan Hernandez, Colon, Harden. Those guys are aces. They're all great pitchers and have no problems taking out elite teams.

 

Wait...

 

Mulder is a career ERA+ of 115.

 

Buehrle is a career ERA+ of 125.

 

Yet Mulder is the ace?

 

Credibility? Down the drain.

Wakefield's cheating. Throwing to many fastballs.

Wakefield's cheating.  Throwing to many fastballs.

Let him keep throwing those, he'll get lit up eventually

Quick 1-2-3 inning for Wakefield. Bottom 1 0-0

Let him keep throwing those, he'll get lit up eventually

Agreed, but he can't throw that many in the first inning when our hitters aren't expecting it, that's cheating.

I hope Podsednik's groin injury doesnt nag.

Wait...

 

Mulder is a career ERA+ of 115.

 

Buehrle is a career ERA+ of 125.

 

Yet Mulder is the ace?

 

Credibility?  Down the drain.

Last night Nite said he was going to make a thread as to why Mark isn't an ace. I think he did some research and just couldn't find anything to back up his argument, therefore no thread.

I hope Podsednik's groin injury doesnt nag.

That's why it's very smart to give him a few days off.

Let's not pitch to Ortiz tonite.

He GAWWWWN

ManRam K's. Top of 2nd, 0-0

Wait...

 

Mulder is a career ERA+ of 115.

 

Buehrle is a career ERA+ of 125.

 

Yet Mulder is the ace?

 

Credibility?  Down the drain.

Same goes for Garland, Livan, and Colon.

ANOTHER, quick 1-2-3 inning for Wakefield. bottom 2, 0-0

Good start offensively