seems like we now no longer have duque, visciano, or marte in the bullpen.....

 

so far these guys are a lock

jenks

cotts

polite

 

these guys are question marks

hermenson (health)

bmac (if garland gets traded, hes not in the pen durrr)

 

 

so... let the endless specualtion of in house, FA, and trade possiblities begin... ill start.

 

 

 

"Both the Yankees and Red Sox are talking with free agent Rudy Seanez.

It's been reported that Seanez would prefer to pitch for the Braves, but if they're in on him, they've managed to keep it quiet. Seanez actually pitched for the Red Sox briefly in 2003, allowing six earned runs in 8 2/3 innings. Everyone is taking a closer look at him after he finished last season with a 2.69 ERA in a career-high 60 1/3 IP for the Padres. Dec. 14 - 4:54 am et"

Was just thinkin about Seanez myself. Some team like the Braves may offer him a closer's job though. Still if he wants to win a Championship, we may have a good chance.

 

Other pitchers could include;

 

Giovanni Carrara

Felix Rodriguez

Jeff Nelson

Jim Mecir

Joey Eischen

 

 

So yes not a lot on the FA market as well. KW may have to get creative again.

Garland/Contreras + prospect for Abreu

 

Dye for MR + spec or 2 good MRs

 

How's that for speculation?

Garland/Contreras + prospect for Abreu

 

Dye for MR + spec or 2 good MRs

 

How's that for speculation?

f***ing horrible! you didnt even speculate who the pitchers are

 

GOD!

f***ing horrible! you didnt even speculate who the pitchers are

 

GOD!

 

1. Dotel. Sign him, rehab him, bring him back midseason.

 

2. Use Garland to bring the Sox several relief pitchers. Dodgers could give us quite the package, which may include several good pitching prospects. Not sure whether or not they're looking for starting pitching, but I'd rather give him to a team stocked with pitching in the National League, on the West Coast, where there's a strong possbility he'll resign.

I'm pretty sure Eischen is still under Nats control.

 

EDIT: Maybe not, I see he has a protected contract yet he's listed as a FA so I'm not sure. He's definitely a guy I'd like to look at if he's available.

 

Ok, he's still on the 40 man roster of the Nats so he's not a fa. Problem solved.

Edited December 14, 200520 yr by Rowand44

I'm pretty sure Eischen is still under Nats control.

 

EDIT: Maybe not, I see he has a protected contract yet he's listed as a FA so I'm not sure.  He's definitely a guy I'd like to look at if he's  available.

Ahh my bad, he was signed to a 1 year deal today. So cut him out of the list.

The relievers will come via the trade route [probably Garland, and the guys like Harris, Gload, Joe B]. Right now the FA market is overpriced and underwhelming in terms of talent

The relievers will come via the trade route [probably Garland, and the guys like Harris, Gload, Joe B]. Right now the FA market is overpriced and underwhelming in terms of talent

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I don't see us trading Garland for relievers but I agree with you on Willie and Borchard. They could be used to acquire young, low-profile relievers with some upside.

Mecir is kind of old (35), but he wouldn't be a bad replacement for Vizcaino.

I don't see us trading Garland for relievers but I agree with you on Willie and Borchard.  They could be used to acquire young, low-profile relievers with some upside.

I see Garland being moved for multiple players, one of which could be a bullpen guy

Ugueth Urbina

The Sox will probably look into Ugeuth Urbina. I'd look at Felix Rodriguez and Jim Mecir personally and Urbina.

The Sox will probably look into Ugeuth Urbina. I'd look at Felix Rodriguez and Jim Mecir personally and Urbina.

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Do they have to set up a visiting time to see him?!?!

I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder.

I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder.

I actually wouldn't be shocked if Ozzie were the guy to give him the chance to get his career back on track, although it remains to be seen whether he will ever step foot in the US again.

1. Dotel. Sign him, rehab him, bring him back midseason.

 

2. Use Garland to bring the Sox several relief pitchers. Dodgers could give us quite the package, which may include several good pitching prospects. Not sure whether or not they're looking for starting pitching, but I'd rather give him to a team stocked with pitching in the National League, on the West Coast, where there's a strong possbility he'll resign.

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Love your suggestion #2. Dodgers are a good fit.

I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder.

 

 

Yeah, charged with attempted murder is the key thing, not convicted. Besides the fact that he is innocent until proven otherwise, remember he was charged with this crime in a country whose legal system isn't exactly the bedrock of integrity.

 

If Ozzie thinks enough of him as a human being to go visit him in Jail twice since the off-season started, that's all I need to know about what kind of person he is.

 

Obviously Ozzie thinks a lot of him, and on a pure baseball level the guy is one of the better relivers out there and would make an excellent addition to the staff.

 

Who knows who controls the local police and judges in whatever Venezuelan district Urbina was charged in, drug lords, gangs, the governement? This isn't like the U.S., I'll take Ozzie's read on the situation over the Media's any day of the week.

 

If he is convicted, or isn't allowed back in the country the point is moot, if he is out and acquitted by next season, and can be had for $1mil. or so, it's a no-brainer.

Is Urbina a free agent?

I sure hope the Sox don't look at Urbina. Dont forget he was charged with attempted murder.

that doesnt necessarily mean hes a bad clubhouse guy

that doesnt necessarily mean hes a bad clubhouse guy

 

Just don't piss him off.

 

Oops. Meant to be in green, not bold.

Edited December 14, 200520 yr by YASNY

If these lazy ass pitchers would just pitch complete games like the old timers did, this wouldn't be an issue..