Not if Contreras leaves via free agency...

 

Buehrle

Garcia

Vazquez

Garland

McCarthy

 

This is correct

Well, hopefully Carrillo will be ready to join the rotation in a year or two, so we could save some money by trading Garland. 

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Why did they pass on him again?

Sounds like old Contreras.  Me no likey.

But.. he's a changed man!! There's no chance in hell he'll ever revert to his former self, which he has been for the majority of his career!

Chris Getz playing 2B.

Gringo Garcia is on the hill

But.. he's a changed man!! There's no chance in hell he'll ever revert to his former self, which he has been for the majority of his career!

 

I think Contreras will be fine. It might take him a couple of outings to get comfortable mentally. From the reports in the media, it sure sounds like he was shaken up from the pain he had in his tricep/elbow.

But.. he's a changed man!! There's no chance in hell he'll ever revert to his former self, which he has been for the majority of his career!

 

Or more like 1 year outta 3.

Pardon me if I'm not celebrating his 4BB in 4IP

 

It was the first time he pitched in a game like 2+ weeks. WTF did you expect?

 

The important part was there was no pain so they didn't have to shut him down in the middle of the outing.

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It was the first time he pitched in a game like 2+ weeks. WTF did you expect?

And he was anything but the bad Contreras when he was taking his regular turn. He should be OK.

I think Contreras will be fine.  It might take him a couple of outings to get comfortable mentally.  From the reports in the media, it sure sounds like he was shaken up from the pain he had in his tricep/elbow.

I think he'll be fine too... depending on how you define "fine". I'm looking for a mid-4's ERA out of him, and 13-15 wins. For Contreras, I think thats fine, but others might disagree.

It was the first time he pitched in a game like 2+ weeks. WTF did you expect?

 

Nope, he's done. The old Jose is back and here to stay.

I think he'll be fine too... depending on how you define "fine".  I'm looking for a mid-4's ERA out of him, and 13-15 wins.  For Contreras, I think thats fine, but others might disagree.

 

If he ends up with a mid 4 ERA, we really missed out on a chance to trade him at peak value then.

I think he'll be fine too... depending on how you define "fine".  I'm looking for a mid-4's ERA out of him, and 13-15 wins.  For Contreras, I think thats fine, but others might disagree.

 

Mid 4's ERA? I'll have to tag this post for the end of the season.

If he ends up with a mid 4 ERA, we really missed out on a chance to trade him at peak value then.

Which is why I wanted to trade him this offseason for a good reliever and some prospects.

It could be worse. We could have El Duque as our #2 starter.

 

Latest News  Mar. 25, 2006 - 4:42 pm et

 

Orlando Hernandez will open the season as the Diamondbacks' No. 2 starter, manager Bob Melvin said Saturday.

Following Opening Day starter Brandon Webb and El Duque will be Miguel Batista and Russ Ortiz. Melvin wasn't ready to declare a winner for the fifth spot. Claudio Vargas and Brad Halsey will keep battling.

Is it a bad sign if you're given #88 AND an adjustable cap?

Which is why I wanted to trade him this offseason for a good reliever and some prospects.

 

And then you would be calling for Kenny's head if he had another '05 like season somewhere else.

Nope,  he's done.  The old Jose is back and here to stay.

 

Yep. I'm sure he was tenative. First time pitching from that angle since his last castuc start and first time pitching in a game at all since then. I actually figured he'd have more walks than that.

 

But he went out and looked better the last two according to Hawk and struck out 4 in his last 2 IP.

And then you would be calling for Kenny's head if he had another '05 like season somewhere else.

No, I wouldn't, because trading him would have filled a need for the team. And even if he had another season like '05 (3.61 ERA, 15 wins), it wouldn't matter, since he's like 45 years old, and will be a FA after this year (and when he becomes one, we don't get compensation) so trading him and getting anything of value in return is a good deal.

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We have some real, real bad pitchers in our minor league system.

We have some real, real bad pitchers in our minor league system.

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Quickman actually does have some good ideas...

No, I wouldn't, because trading him would have filled a need for the team.  And even if he had another season like '05 (3.61 ERA, 15 wins), it wouldn't matter, since he's like 45 years old, and will be a FA after this year (and when he becomes one, we don't get compensation).

 

Well, without that "45" year old, we're on 89 years without a title. And you don't trade a guy that started game 1 of the ALDS, ALCS and World Series just because. Man, I'm glad some of you guys aren't the gm.

And then you would be calling for Kenny's head if he had another '05 like season somewhere else.

The Sox extended him 3 years with the first year probably a little below market value, the second probably a little above, and the third probably what it should be if he has 2 more seasons like last year. This contract just screams of one KW is going to use to try and lure cheaper players and prospects. A lot obviously depends on how he and the team do in 2006. If the season is a dissapointment for the Sox, I wouldn't be surprised to see the sold out season ticket base to take a big step backwards, which could mean Contreras and Garland could both be gone, with McCarthy and either a free agent or Cotts as their replacements.

Well,  without that "45" year old,  we're on 89 years without a title.  And you don't trade a guy that started game 1 of the ALDS,  ALCS and World Series just because.  Man,  I'm glad some of you guys aren't the gm.

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On the same token, why are some people afraid to give up prospect(s) for a decent reliever? Thornton is awful.

Well,  without that "45" year old,  we're on 89 years without a title.  And you don't trade a guy that started game 1 of the ALDS,  ALCS and World Series just because.  Man,  I'm glad some of you guys aren't the gm.

The same can be said for Blum (agruably, since those games were in Houston), Everett (no other DH option), Rowand, El Duque (arguably, you never know what happens in that Boston series if he doesn't perform his magic), Thomas (the team was at its best when he played) etc. etc. etc.