June 1, 200619 yr That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats...
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats... Considering how last nights game was the first time we got shut out, I would say your opinion of us getting shut out all the time is pretty ridiculous.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats... I wouldn't go that far. This was the first time they have been shut out all season. I expect them to bounce back tonight and to get a good dose of home field advantage when they get back tomorrow.
June 1, 200619 yr Even if our offense resembles the 04 offense, that's ok since our pitching staff is light-years ahead of the 04 staff. Let's not forget that was the year when we went to a 4-man rotation for a while and Scott Schoenweis and Estebad Loiaza were half that.
June 1, 200619 yr Author When I say shut out I am generalizing. Not literally, but you get the idea: we either rack 'em up or we're dismal. Think of it: two nights ago we were up 3-0 and they scored four runs. That was enough to beat us. Shutout, schmutout, you get the idea.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) Considering how last nights game was the first time we got shut out, I would say your opinion of us getting shut out all the time is pretty ridiculous. /agree 1 shutout doesn't = 2004.
June 1, 200619 yr Author For the SECOND time, I was GENERALIZING. FORGET the part about "shutout." I meant: the whole feast or famine thing. !!!
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:41 PM) When I say shut out I am generalizing. Not literally, but you get the idea: we either rack 'em up or we're dismal. Think of it: two nights ago we were up 3-0 and they scored four runs. That was enough to beat us. Shutout, schmutout, you get the idea. How dare we score 3 runs against the hottest pitcher in baseball.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 12:54 PM) How dare we score 3 runs against the hottest pitcher in baseball. We faced Jose Contreras?
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:58 PM) We faced Jose Contreras? I'm pretty sure C.C. has been the best pitcher in baseball since he came off the DL.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:58 PM) I'm pretty sure C.C. has been the best pitcher in baseball since he came off the DL. We are just a couple games off our 2005 pace. If the Tigers were like they were last year NO ONE would be complaining. But we have competition this year so it's the 2006 edition of: Edited June 1, 200619 yr by RibbieRubarb
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:02 PM) We are just a couple games off our 2005 pace. If the Tigers were like they were last year NO ONE would be complaining. But we have competition this year so it's the 2006 edition of:
June 1, 200619 yr All the guy said was that we've looked like the 2004 for team for the past week. That's entirely true. Can't hold leads, score a bunch of runs one game, then scrape a few across for the next few.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 08:11 PM) Can't hold leads We've had problems holding leads all season.
June 1, 200619 yr Because I am a nerd, I compared the average runs scored and standard deviation for 2004, 2005, and 2006. The average runs at this point were: 2004 - 5.591836735 2005 - 4.403846154 2006 - 5.431372549 The standard deviation was: 2004 - 4.046183219 2005 - 2.144391823 2006 - 3.054536966 If I remember my math classes correctly, the standard deviation means that for example in 2004 66% of our games were within 4 runs of the average (5.59). So, in 2004 66% of the time we ranged between 1.59 and 9.59 runs. In 2005, we averaged 4.40 runs per game and most of the time we were within 2 runs of that average (a lot more consistent). This year we are pretty close to the same amount of runs per game as 2004, but we are not fluctuating as wildly. We are also not as consistent as 2005. So, this year is kind of falling between 2004 and 2005.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(vandy125 @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 02:27 PM) Because I am a nerd, I compared the average runs scored and standard deviation for 2004, 2005, and 2006. The average runs at this point were: 2004 - 5.591836735 2005 - 4.403846154 2006 - 5.431372549 The standard deviation was: 2004 - 4.046183219 2005 - 2.144391823 2006 - 3.054536966 If I remember my math classes correctly, the standard deviation means that for example in 2004 66% of our games were within 4 runs of the average (5.59). So, in 2004 66% of the time we ranged between 1.59 and 9.59 runs. In 2005, we averaged 4.40 runs per game and most of the time we were within 2 runs of that average (a lot more consistent). This year we are pretty close to the same amount of runs per game as 2004, but we are not fluctuating as wildly. We are also not as consistent as 2005. So, this year is kind of falling between 2004 and 2005. I think deviation isn't applicable in comparing 2005 to the other seasons since the mean is much lower and there's the possiblity of scoring 0 runs. But yeah, it can definitely compare 2004 and 2006 and it shows we are way more consistent in run scoring this season than in 2004.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 07:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That right now we really remind me of the 2004 Sox? In other words: feast or famine. We either crush them or we get shut out. Of course I'm generalizing and no, I am not throwing in the towel or claiming the sky is falling, but this Cleveland series is bringing back some unpleasant memories of '04 and how we could alternate between awesome and flat-out crappy. Hey I know the season's young and I'm hardly going code blue on this, but just thought I'd see if anybody else felt the same way. (Although one difference is that we actually swept the Angels IN Anaheim and Oakland here, so some things have changed). But man I miss the one-run wins with low scores when our pitching and defense was killing everybody and not really our bats... No, I really don't feel the same way. I think it is just you.
June 1, 200619 yr Author QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 03:11 PM) All the guy said was that we've looked like the 2004 for team for the past week. That's entirely true. Can't hold leads, score a bunch of runs one game, then scrape a few across for the next few. Thank YOU Milkman! Geez! I make one negative comment and people are spraining their knees, jerking them. What is this, WSI?
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:24 PM) Thank YOU Milkman! Geez! I make one negative comment and people are spraining their knees, jerking them. What is this, WSI? I get your point dude. Its just, maybe our offense is just better this year, and has won us several games that we may not have won last year. Especially with our pitching struggling a bit early in this season. If you took this rotation and paired it with those lineups Frank, Maggs, Lee, Konerko, im sure we would have been a better team. I have the utmost confidence that this team will be more consistently good than last years team.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:28 PM) No... it's June. LMAO.. This has got to be one of the funniest days on this site in a loooooong time.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 09:31 PM) LMAO.. This has got to be one of the funniest days on this site in a loooooong time. We just want to see you in a shirt tearing contest. Come on, live up to the moniker of "doable"... YOU CAN DOOO IT!
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) We just want to see you in a shirt tearing contest. Come on, live up to the moniker of "doable"... YOU CAN DOOO IT! I had jury duty........ Just in case you wanted someone to judge.
June 1, 200619 yr QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 1, 2006 -> 09:35 PM) I had jury duty........ Just in case you wanted someone to judge. Go get my gyro, b****.
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