The Human Borch Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) Verducci's Picks I just don't understand a few of his picks, for example, I know Glaus has provided power numbers but his .245 average and .952 fielding percentage don't impress me. .952 isnt bad, but Crede has a .967 percentage with exceptional range. On top of that, Crede's average is about 60 points higher than Glaus's. The other that perplexed me was the pick of Giambi at first. Konerko has had an absolutely stellar season and is definately deserving of the nod at first. Also, Thome, Morneau and Hafner both have equal/superior numbers to Giambi's. By the way, please don't interperate this as whining about the media, I just believe that these picks were pretty off-base. Edited June 28, 2006 by The Human Borch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Giambi really doesn't make any sense. His OBP numbers are better and he has more homers, but that's about it He just must have known that New York fans would freak out if they didn't have any starters. It's also obvious that he didn't count DH's at all, since there are at least 3 of them that are crushing him statistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I love how Ortiz is the starting first basemen for fan votes. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 It should be: C: Joe Mauer (MIN) 1B: Travis Hafner (CLE) 2B: Tadahito Iguchi (CHW) SS: Miguel Tejada (BAL) 3B: Troy Glaus (TOR) OF: Manny Ramirez (BOS) OF: Vernon Wells (TOR) OF: Jermaine Dye (CHW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loltrain Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 C: Maurer 1B: Hafner 2B: Lopez 3B: Glaus SS: Tejada OF: Wells OF: Dye OF: Rios In other words I pretty much agree with him. The problem is all the Red Sox and Yankees stiffs getting voted in will limit how many deserving players (you know, guys on the Tigers and Whitesox, aka the two best teams in the AL) get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcullotta Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) Crede and Glaus are pretty damn close Joe: AVG .307 | HR 14 | RBI 54 | OBP .341 | SLG .531 Troy: AVG .245 | HR 21 | RBI 53 | OBP .348 | SLG .535 Even with all those extra homers for Troy, Joe has 1 more RBI, is right there in SLG, and has a way better average. Factor in Joe's D > Troy's, you could easily say Joe deserves it. Edited June 28, 2006 by pcullotta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I've always thought of the All-Star game as more of a way to award players for great offensive first halves and if performances are close defense is the tiebreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 this years ASG should be the best of the AL Central versus the rest of the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I chose Glaus just because he represents more to his team, in my opinion. That team was desperate for right-handed thunder (although Rios and Wells both are above expectations). Whereas Crede plays on a deeper and better team. Both are having good years, Glaus has more pedigree, and I went with Glaus. 3rd is pretty deep with A-Rod, Crede, Glaus, Blalock, Chavez (slipping lately) all bunched up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 09:43 PM) I chose Glaus just because he represents more to his team, in my opinion. That team was desperate for right-handed thunder (although Rios and Wells both are above expectations). Whereas Crede plays on a deeper and better team. Both are having good years, Glaus has more pedigree, and I went with Glaus. 3rd is pretty deep with A-Rod, Crede, Glaus, Blalock, Chavez (slipping lately) all bunched up Mike Lowell as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHammer Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 C-Mauer, cant see much argument here 1B-Hafner, the kid's got some nasty dropjaw. Giambi, Thome, and Mr. clutch Ortiz close. 2B-Lopez, close with him and Cano and Iguchi. 53 RBIs for Lopez puts him over the top SS-Jeter, having a great season he is really the only choice 3B-A-Rod, not an ARod like first half but lead all 3B in OPS coming into Tuesday's games. Crede and Glaus just as deserving. OF-Wells, I don't see how one can argue with this guy being an AS this year. OF-Dye, gotta slurp the hometown guy, clutch hitting OPS over 1.000 OF-Ichiro, Defensively, on the bases, with the stick, what an amazing player, hitting .360. Manny is a close 4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I don't see how Jeter is the definative choice over Tejada. Defense is a wash at best, Tejada has the power numbers and Jeter has the average/runs/SB. Also, you're wrong, Glaus has a higher OPS than A-Rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Contreras is undefeated and yet still doesnt make the list as starter? Glaus? Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 10:56 PM) Contreras is undefeated and yet still doesnt make the list as starter? Glaus? Please. Eh, JC will probably start because of Ozzie but you can definitely make a case for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Could a Sox pitcher start the game for the 3rd time in 4 years?? I don't see why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 11:57 PM) Could a Sox pitcher start the game for the 3rd time in 4 years?? I don't see why not. What's the record? That is still pretty amazing when you think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHammer Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 10:06 PM) I don't see how Jeter is the definative choice over Tejada. Defense is a wash at best, Tejada has the power numbers and Jeter has the average/runs/SB. Also, you're wrong, Glaus has a higher OPS than A-Rod. First of all, like I said coming into Tuesday's game A-Rod had the highest OPS among 3Bs in the AL. He was one thousandth of a point ahead of Glaus. I was not wrong. A-Rod was 0-4 today and Glaus was 1-4 so I guess they could have flip flopped but I did not have the up to the second numbers. 2nd of all I don't see how more HRs can put Tejada ahead of Jeter when Jeter is hitting like 20 points higher and have an OBP that is 60 points higher and a higher OPS. He has had a great season stealing bases 15/17 and is the leader of one of the better teams in the AL. I guess statistically one could argue he is only marginally better than Tejada, but I think it would be very difficult for one to say he has been better than Jeter. I also disagree with defense being a wash, Jeter is more reliable on the routine plays and just as spectacular on the tough ones. Tejada deserves to be an all-star, he deserves to be Jeter's backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 08:35 PM) It should be: C: Joe Mauer (MIN) 1B: Travis Hafner (CLE) 2B: Tadahito Iguchi (CHW) SS: Miguel Tejada (BAL) 3B: Troy Glaus (TOR) OF: Manny Ramirez (BOS) OF: Vernon Wells (TOR) OF: Jermaine Dye (CHW) Didn't you originally argue against glaus when I brought him up before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 08:35 PM) It should be: C: Joe Mauer (MIN) 1B: Travis Hafner (CLE) 2B: Tadahito Iguchi (CHW) SS: Miguel Tejada (BAL) 3B: Troy Glaus (TOR) OF: Manny Ramirez (BOS) OF: Vernon Wells (TOR) OF: Jermaine Dye (CHW) That is pretty spot on to what the all-star game should look like...but unfortunately won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(whitesoxin @ Jun 27, 2006 -> 11:57 PM) Could a Sox pitcher start the game for the 3rd time in 4 years?? I don't see why not. Ozzie has already said that barring something weird, Contreras will be starting this all-star game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zygoat Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 wait guys, what about juan uribe, he has been lighting it up wiht his exceptional hitting and his patience. Also he is the best defensive shortstop ever to play the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I think Konerko should be starting at 1b. I think Hafner is the same boat as Thome. There both DH's and were going to a national league park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChWRoCk2 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I agree with most of his picks, except giambi, i think hafner konerko thome or ortiz can replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(TheHammer @ Jun 28, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) First of all, like I said coming into Tuesday's game A-Rod had the highest OPS among 3Bs in the AL. He was one thousandth of a point ahead of Glaus. I was not wrong. A-Rod was 0-4 today and Glaus was 1-4 so I guess they could have flip flopped but I did not have the up to the second numbers. 2nd of all I don't see how more HRs can put Tejada ahead of Jeter when Jeter is hitting like 20 points higher and have an OBP that is 60 points higher and a higher OPS. He has had a great season stealing bases 15/17 and is the leader of one of the better teams in the AL. I guess statistically one could argue he is only marginally better than Tejada, but I think it would be very difficult for one to say he has been better than Jeter. I also disagree with defense being a wash, Jeter is more reliable on the routine plays and just as spectacular on the tough ones. Tejada deserves to be an all-star, he deserves to be Jeter's backup. I disagree. Tejada over his career is a much much better defender with much better range. Even most Yankee fans will admit that Jeter doesn't have much range. I'd take tons of players ahead of Jeter defensively at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandy125 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 28, 2006 -> 08:48 AM) I disagree. Tejada over his career is a much much better defender with much better range. Even most Yankee fans will admit that Jeter doesn't have much range. I'd take tons of players ahead of Jeter defensively at SS. That is what I think too. Jeter has to make spectacular plays on one's that should be routine because of his range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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