alright maybe I was being a bit extreme, but they don't have 5 solid starters without him, and we know what the sox did with only 4 good starters...

A bit extreme? They are the best pitching staff in baseball. BTW they have had 6 good starters this year with Maroth.

Huh?

 

remember in 03 and 04 when our starters were like loaiza/contreras, buerhle, garcia, garland and then a mixture of players for the 5th spot

 

I think the 5th starter position went like 4-20 or something like that

 

the point is that I doubt the Tigers would have the best record in baseball without verlander

Edited July 3, 200619 yr by GoRowand33

the point is that I doubt the Tigers would have the best record in baseball without verlander

 

Way to go out on a limb.

 

Dude, the Tigers have the best staff in baseball. It's not just Verlander. Not even close.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Huh?

 

Liriano - Verlander - Hafner - Hernandez/Pierzynski

 

Hernandez is putting up great numbers for a catcher. Although I'm a Tigers fan I have to go with Liriano though, 9-1 with a sub 2.00 era how in the name of god was he not on the team in the first place?

 

AJ: .327 .371 .453 .824

 

Ramon: .278 .341 .507 .848

 

I'd consider either a good choice for a third catcher.

Hey to all you guys worried about AJ's rep if he was on teh AL team... don't worry, Escobar won't be there.

I voted for A.J. until it told me I couldn't anymore.

Hmm, Hafner is having an unbelievable season. Do I put the love my favorite team ahead of the player who really should be there?

 

AJ it is!

as taken from WSI poster OEO

 

"FOR THOSE WITH FIREFOX:

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1490/

 

Get this extension. After installing, fill out the form (except the validation code). Go to Tools > Form Saver. Save your form to "Bookmarks Toolbar Folder".

 

Now, after you vote, click Vote Again. Once it loads up, just click the bookmark on your toolbar. It will fill everything in, all you need to do is put in the new validation code.

 

For those without Firefox...what are you doing? Go get it."

 

anything to help the cause

At the "thank you for voting" page, press back instead of "vote again". You'll get a new validation code you'll have to enter, but all the information remains.

My information stays there after every time I click Vote Again so I don't know what you guys are complaining about...

My information stays there after every time I click Vote Again so I don't know what you guys are complaining about...

 

Mine does too, but I have to uncheck the boxes for ad emails and then select the players again. If you press back, all you have to do is enter the code and click vote. At least, that's how it is for me.

Edited July 3, 200619 yr by Sox It To Em

HA! It's gonna be tough for AJ. I've voted for him as well, but ALOT of fans and players hate his guts. I highly doubt he's gonna get in. But... worth a shot.

Voted we shall see!

I'd vote a lot more if you didn't have to type in your e-mail address, date of birth, ect, every single time.

Bluto : Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

 

Otter : Germans?

 

Boon : Forget it, he's rolling.

 

Bluto : And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...

[thinks hard]

Bluto : the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!

[runs out, alone; then returns]

 

 

Seriously...I saw THIS BOARD literally put Pods on their back and put him on the All Star team. I mean literally. Scott Podsednik was in the All-Star game because of us. And now we're going to sit around and talk about how other players are more deserving? Hell, I'm actually a Twins fan also and I know that Liriano definately deserves to be in the All Star Game, but f*** me if I'm just going to sit here and vote for him as opposed to A.J..

 

You think Pods was the most deserving player to make the All-Star game last year? Probably not. But that didn't seem to be a problem for us. But now all of a sudden we have standards?

 

Seriously if there is any player on our team who deserves to have US all show him all of our support - who is it...I would have a problem saying anyone other then A.J.

 

I don't know about the rest of you, but let's try and get another...Soxtalk..put 'em on the booaarrdd!!! YES!!!

Bluto : Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

 

Otter : Germans?

 

Boon : Forget it, he's rolling.

 

Bluto : And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...

[thinks hard]

Bluto : the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!

[runs out, alone; then returns]

Seriously...I saw THIS BOARD literally put Pods on their back and put him on the All Star team. I mean literally. Scott Podsednik was in the All-Star game because of us. And now we're going to sit around and talk about how other players are more deserving? Hell, I'm actually a Twins fan also and I know that Liriano definately deserves to be in the All Star Game, but f*** me if I'm just going to sit here and vote for him as opposed to A.J..

 

You think Pods was the most deserving player to make the All-Star game last year? Probably not. But that didn't seem to be a problem for us. But now all of a sudden we have standards?

 

Seriously if there is any player on our team who deserves to have US all show him all of our support - who is it...I would have a problem saying anyone other then A.J.

 

I don't know about the rest of you, but let's try and get another...Soxtalk..put 'em on the booaarrdd!!! YES!!!

"...riveting."

- Richard Roeper

Edited July 3, 200619 yr by SoxFan1

Gotta vote for AJ even though he most likely won't get elected since everyone hates him.

Pods won last year because of Red Sox fans and Soxtalk. We won't have help from any other fans in all of baseball because everyone hates AJ besides us and the Twins, and they'll vote for Liriano.

 

It will be a whole lot tougher this year than last year.

I like AJ, but I can't vote for him with other guys more worthy than he on that list.

Pods won last year because of Red Sox fans and Soxtalk. We won't have help from any other fans in all of baseball because everyone hates AJ besides us and the Twins, and they'll vote for Liriano.

 

It will be a whole lot tougher this year than last year.

 

Well s*** maybe we should just sit in the corner and cry about it then like a bunch of f***in' pussies who feel like it's owed to us because we won the World Series last year.

 

The second we start losing fire as a fan base like we (and I mean WE as in SOXTALK) is the second this team stops winning. And it may sound silly, but I actually believe that. Because whatever happens here is indicitive of what happens with us a whole fan base.

Edited July 3, 200619 yr by MinnySoxFan

I like AJ, but I can't vote for him with other guys more worthy than he on that list.

traitor

Think about it this way...the votes are going to be split between 3 very worthy candidates in Hafner, Verlander, and Liriano. We have a legit shot.

I really don't mean to make my last post sound like a post that says that "if you don't vote for AJ your a pussy like it sounds (and like I said).

 

My bigger point is that last year we (as a fan base - and by that I mean soxtalk) had fire - and it didn't matter whether out player was the best - we wanted our player in the All Star Game and we got him there.

 

It worries me that I don't see the same fire anymore. I want to be able to feel that same insanty that I did when I was reading game threads in the last 20 games of the year last year when everything was ramped up and we were listening to Bonnie Tyler and beleving in the Rally Crede. The second that goes, it all goes. In the same vein I'd hate to lose the insensity that we had for our love for our players that we had last year like when WE voted in AJ.

 

SAUX fans BS. WE voted Pods in last year, we can vote in AJ if we want this year. It's a matter of whether we want to.

 

The choice is up to us.