id rather have vazquez than garcia....

close call, but I'd take Freddy

Ive been watching Javy ever since he came into the MLB.

 

Unlike most fans I just dont trash players for no reason.

 

From what I can recall the Sox gave TB an extra out that inning with the pop up and Javy only gave up 1 run.

 

Boo f***ing hoo

 

Tell me how great Chris Young is again.

close call, but I'd take Freddy

 

 

Me too...Vazquez is a loser...Freddy isn't. Freddy may be a jerk calling his teammates out, but does ANYONE think IN ANY UNIVERSE Vazquez could pitch us to a 1-0 world series clincher? Hell no...the guy sucks and we gave up a boatload for him.

close call, but I'd take Freddy

That sure is a tough decision. But Freddy's mediocre heater, coupled with his inability to hold runners, is a MAJOR concern. Of course so is Javy's lack of concentration

I'd take Vasquez. At least he teases us with good innings, instead of 20 pitches of sweaty-ball...that sounds bad.

id rather have vazquez than garcia....

 

In his defense, Vazquez at least tries to get guys out no matter what team it is, you can't say the same for Garcia.

Did Leland get tossed in the Detroit game?

Me too...Vazquez is a loser...Freddy isn't. Freddy may be a jerk calling his teammates out, but does ANYONE think IN ANY UNIVERSE Vazquez could pitch us to a 1-0 world series clincher? Hell no...the guy sucks and we gave up a boatload for him.

you think the 88 mph fastball 2006 version of freddy can take is into a 1-0 world series clincher? hell no

Broadway is starting for AAA tonight, please by the grace of god let him be in the starting rotation next year, him & McCarthy.

Unlike most fans I just dont trash players for no reason.

 

 

LMAO...No reason at all....None, Javier Vazquez is so worth everything he is getting paid and all that we gave up.

 

Forget Chris Young...I wouldnt have even given up Vizciano and El Duque for him....he stinks.

Did Leland get tossed in the Detroit game?

yep

Ive been watching Javy ever since he came into the MLB.

 

Unlike most fans I just dont trash players for no reason.

 

From what I can recall the Sox gave TB an extra out that inning with the pop up and Javy only gave up 1 run.

 

Boo f***ing hoo

 

Tell me how great Chris Young is again.

I've watched a lot of Vaz too over the years. Hawk has said it before, for a guy with his stuff it's hard to believe he's at or near .500.

 

The frustrating thing with him is he has games, like the Toronto game this year with his FB working, or the games he pitched against the Sox with the NYY where his change-up was so effective, then for the next 10 games he gets burned on bad sliders and curves.

you think the 88 mph fastball 2006 version of freddy can take is into a 1-0 world series clincher? hell no

 

 

Ok then, they are both equally worthless.

Ive been watching Javy ever since he came into the MLB.

 

Unlike most fans I just dont trash players for no reason.

 

From what I can recall the Sox gave TB an extra out that inning with the pop up and Javy only gave up 1 run.

 

Boo f***ing hoo

 

Tell me how great Chris Young is again.

 

Exactly...still would rather have kept young, but you gotta give him credit for only giving up 1 after Crede missed that one...if it were Garland, it would have been 3 more pages of praise for getting out of that with minimal damage...

Vazquez is a loser with 11 wins.

 

I wonder where the Sox would be without Javy's 6 wins in the first 2 months.

Yanks are up 6-2

Vazquez is a loser with 11 wins.

 

I wonder where the Sox would be without Javy's 6 wins in the first 2 months.

I wonder where most pitchers would be with the run support Vazquez has gotten (best in the league, IIRC)

Vazquez is a loser with 11 wins.

 

I wonder where the Sox would be without Javy's 6 wins in the first 2 months.

When his run support was astronomical.

Vazquez is a loser with 11 wins.

 

I wonder where the Sox would be without Javy's 6 wins in the first 2 months.

 

Isn't he also among the lead league in run support? There are a ton of pitchers in the majors that have 50 pct of Vazquez's stuff, but they have something he doesn't: guts.

Ive been watching Javy ever since he came into the MLB.

 

Unlike most fans I just dont trash players for no reason.

 

From what I can recall the Sox gave TB an extra out that inning with the pop up and Javy only gave up 1 run.

 

Boo f***ing hoo

Tell me how great Chris Young is again.

 

Okay. He's great.

 

Thanks for playing.

Broadway is starting for AAA tonight, please by the grace of god let him be in the starting rotation next year, him & McCarthy.

If Broadway AND McCArthy are in the starting rotation next year, i would say were in trouble. Maybe in 2008

1 run thru 4 innings is disappointing today...for both teams probably.

Go check the stats lol

 

In those 6 wins he never gave up more than 3 runs

 

Do you even watch the Sox play or just make s*** up?

Exactly...still would rather have kept young, but you gotta give him credit for only giving up 1 after Crede missed that one...if it were Garland, it would have been 3 more pages of praise for getting out of that with minimal damage...

 

 

Yea, because Garland has done it time and time again...Garland hasn't gotten 9 runs of support like this guy...Garland is 16-4 with a sub 4 era in his last 13 starts....Garland has won titles....Garland can make it through lineups more than twice....Garland has STARTED winning streaks....Garland has STOPPED losing streaks...Garland is getting paid LESS...Garland was acquired for LESS....Diminishing returns be damned.

 

To compare Javier Vazquez with Jon Garland is beyond hilarious...without Garland we'd be out of this race....Vazquez has single-handedly given back momentum Garland has given us TIME AND TIME again...go look it up...go to each of Jon Garland's wins and find out HOW MANY TIMES Vazquez (who is behind him in the rotation) has FOLLOWED UP Garland with a win. And find out how many times Vazquez has blown a winning streak.

 

The jury is out on this guy...we got done over a barrell over this over-priced stiff

Man, I thought Scott Kazmir was out for the rest of the season. Let's get some runs