southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It is a different mentality now then it used to be. After Knight, everyone wanted to win now. Then after Sampson came through and pretty well tried to ruin the IU name, it seems to me like people are willing to let Crean take the time to do it right. You really aren't going to turn around a program from top to bottom in a year, two years, or even three. It takes a full generation of basketball time to totally rebuild a program. Remember Indiana had like three scholarship players left after Hurricane Sampson left Bloomington. Unless you are paying under the table, you aren't going to convince an entire roster of star players to go to a program that was decimated. It takes a while to start to rebuild kids faith in that being a destination. That process is slowly happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 This alum would be upset if he didn't get at least 2-3 more years to put it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Actually IU had no returning scholarship players. They brought back 2 walk ons. Thats never happened before in NCAA basketball history, and it happens to one of the bluebloods. Looking back, its kind of a miracle to see what Crean is doing. If I was Painter, I'd bolt for Mizzou. Purdues best run ever = IU locking down the state more than it ever has? What a slap in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Mar 26, 2011 -> 12:37 AM) Actually IU had no returning scholarship players. They brought back 2 walk ons. Thats never happened before in NCAA basketball history, and it happens to one of the bluebloods. Looking back, its kind of a miracle to see what Crean is doing. If I was Painter, I'd bolt for Mizzou. Purdues best run ever = IU locking down the state more than it ever has? What a slap in the face. Purdue is going to be in serious trouble if Painter doesnt start competing for some players. You already have IU locking up most of your state's top talent, and you have OSU, MSU, ILL, Wisconsin, and Mich looking to be better than you next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 26, 2011 -> 02:00 PM) Purdue is going to be in serious trouble if Painter doesnt start competing for some players. You already have IU locking up most of your state's top talent, and you have OSU, MSU, ILL, Wisconsin, and Mich looking to be better than you next season. Â Purdue has a decent class coming in 2013 and they think it's their next JJ, Robbie, Moore class. They didn't really learn their lesson, as they can't keep trying to put all their eggs in one basket and hope one recruiting class can carry them. All they got with the 2007 class was 2 S16's. Regardless, the chance that class even ends up half as good as the "big 3" is extremely slim as 2013 is a down year in Indiana and IU already locked up the states best prospect. Painter has started to try and recruit ohio and Illinois of late and pulled some players, but not anywhere close to the "elite" caliber he needs to compete for the big prize in April. People praise Painter for being a great coach, and I think he is pretty good, but the jury will be out this year when he is without JJ and Moore. He pulled in that class with the help of Cuonzo Martin who is now gone and mostly due to the fact that IU was a s***show under Sampson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Ryan Boatright & Chasson Randle tied for first place in Mr. Basketball voting  3rd - Wayne Blackshear 4th - Anthony Davis 5th - David Sobolweski  None of the four Illini recruits in the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 05:13 PM) Ryan Boatright & Chasson Randle tied for first place in Mr. Basketball voting 3rd - Wayne Blackshear 4th - Anthony Davis 5th - David Sobolweski  None of the four Illini recruits in the top 5.  The funny thing about this is that I have a vote and was going to cast it for Boatright but never sent it in. Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 06:42 PM) The funny thing about this is that I have a vote and was going to cast it for Boatright but never sent it in. Oops That's pretty funny actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 06:42 PM) The funny thing about this is that I have a vote and was going to cast it for Boatright but never sent it in. Oops Since you watch alot of these guys, whats your take on them and any other player that should have been up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 kinda surprised that Henry didn't get some votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 30, 2011 -> 06:48 PM) Since you watch alot of these guys, whats your take on them and any other player that should have been up for it. Â I didn't get to see a lot of them like I usually do. But what I have seen... Â Blackshear is obviously very good. Been the most celebrated high school prep player since Rose. I fear he will be hurt a lot. His bite hasn't been larger than his bite the past few years though. Â Sobolewski is one of the best 3 point shooter I have ever seen in high school. Such a quick release. I hear things about his attitude but I don't know him to know anything about that. Â Kaminsky, good thing he is 7 feet tall because he is pretty soft. Nice touch but a typical Wisconsin white boy recruit. Â I have no clue how Randle got so many Mr. Basketball votes. I was not impressed with him. I hear he is a good kid so I don't want to rip him but I just don't get it. Â Same with George Marshall, he would play well in spurts but was inconsistent when I saw him. That Brooks squad just had good chemistry and success and he got most of the recognition. I liked Mike Powell better on that team. Â Boatright is the best player in the state this year, easily. 3's, mid range, around the hoop, ball handling, the kid is deadly. If he played in the city, media would be drooling over him all year. Â Jabari Parker could of been Mr. Basketball but the voters like voting for seniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 ryanDFischer Bryan Fischer Notre Dame confirms Gunner Kiel has enrolled at Notre Dame. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Mar 25, 2011 -> 11:37 PM) Actually IU had no returning scholarship players. They brought back 2 walk ons. Thats never happened before in NCAA basketball history, and it happens to one of the bluebloods. Looking back, its kind of a miracle to see what Crean is doing. If I was Painter, I'd bolt for Mizzou. Purdues best run ever = IU locking down the state more than it ever has? What a slap in the face. Â Actually, I know of one other time it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 17, 2012 -> 11:49 AM) ryanDFischer Bryan Fischer Notre Dame confirms Gunner Kiel has enrolled at Notre Dame. Â What the golly heck is up with that kid? Why can't he make up his gosh darned mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 less than 3 days away! Â Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Can't believe no one has posted in here... Happy NSD everyone! Â Unfortunately, Tennessee lost out on 2 top LBs late in the last 2 days, but we did sign the #1 JUCO WR. Edited February 1, 2012 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 MIZ-DGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Golden was able to recruit a really good class after a 6-6 season and the Shapiro thing still hovering around. I cant wait to see what he's able to do when he starts winning games and the sanctions talk go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Weber has been out a few times to watch Jalen Brunson, Frosh PG at Douchebag High...I mean Stevenson. He is a very smooth PG already. Great touch and handles. Gonna dominate by the time he is a senior. He will be tons better than what Tracy Abrams has been predicted to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 BTW I wanted to pass on my tour of the DAC updates. I got to see Matt Holba last week finally. Kid is an athletic 6'6". He had a breakaway dunk where he got clobbered by the defender and still managed to throw it down after the run out. Also one to keep an eye on is Chris Palombizio, who is the son of a Mr Basketball from the 80's. He has a great shot, he is just a bit sloppy. Both are playing varsity for Chesterton as true freshmen. Holba needs to put on some size, but he has a nice post game to go with some great athleticism. Â Also want to throw out on Lake Central Soph Tyler Wideman, that he reminds me a lot of a Zach Randolph of the same age. He has an NBA body already, and the downside is he seems to have Randolphs attitude. He pouts, he takes plays off, and he dominates when he has the ball. He can't be played 1 on 1. He is 6'8" and probably in the 250/260 area and just brutalizes HS kids in the post. He got deep post position anytime he wanted, and has pretty nice hops for his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Not much action in this thread so not sure if it is read or ignored anymore.... Â Michigan is off to a hot start for 2013 football recruiting. Eleven months from signing day they have 13 verball commitments, 11 of which are in the top 199 of Rivals Top 250. Only Texas A & M has gotten off to as hot of a start. Brady Hoke's staff is doing a great job of identifying kids from Michigan, Ohio and Illinois, getting them on campus early (often multiple times) and building enough excitement to make them want to commit. The future continues to look bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Number one basketball center in the nation from the class of 2011 is visiting Iowa State this weekend. Get him Fred! Â Late last night I traded text messages with Brian Beard, the AAU coach and mentor of Norvel Pelle, a 6-foot-9 forward (2012) out of Stoneridge Prep in California. Â According to Beard, Pelle, a former St. John's commitment and Rivals.com top 25 prospect, will officially visit Iowa State this weekend. Beard told me that Pelle would arrive in Ames on Friday afternoon and leave Sunday afternoon. Â Pelle was ruled academically ineligible at St. John's before this season. Pelle would be eligible to play next year for whichever school he chooses to attend. Â Beard said that Pelle is still considering offers from San Diego State, UNLV, UTEP, LSU and UConn along with Iowa State. Assistant coach Matt Abdelmassih appears to be leading up this recruitment for the Cyclones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Picking up this thread for this season... I got to see Hyron Edwards the other night from East Chicago Central. Edwards is already getting looks from places like IU and MSU, amongst others in D1. Edwards is currently a sophomore PG who started as a true freshman at a 4A high school (biggest division in IN) who already has two guys playing in the NBA in E'Twan Moore and JuJuan Johnson. Edwards has a ton of first step quickness, handles the ball really well. and plays electric defense. He isn't a big guy (6'1"), but he has a very nice vertical and explosive footwork. Also for a sophomore he has a refined shot from 3 point range. The biggest weakness in his game was that he tended to get out of control at points of the game where he tried to take over. I can really see why he is getting looks from D1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Saw Kendall Stephens (Purdue) a few nights ago. Playing with bum shoulder but you could never tell. Great on both ends. He's all his team has though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Darius Latham committed to IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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