rowandrules83 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Mariotti been vocal about how great a manager Tony LaRussa is? I vaguely recall him writing that Ozzie should be fired and LaRussa re-hired (when there were rumors last season that LaRussa would resign as Cards manager). The point is...LaRussa, with guys like Canseco and McGwire, twice in his case, has been one of the biggest steroid enablers in terms of managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 You ever wonder if Jerry, Kenny, Hawk and Mariotti ever get together over beers somewhere and laugh at the fact that we Sox fans get in a tizzy over these articles? Kinda like professional wrestling...sorry Brian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 11:35 AM) Rick Telander says hi. Yeah. Can't ignore those columns about his lame hall of fame ballot stunts two years in a row. I don't like Telander that much. Obviously everyone's going to have their own opinion anyway, but Telander... Zzzzzzz. Edited January 25, 2008 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(rowandrules83 @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 09:40 AM) Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Mariotti been vocal about how great a manager Tony LaRussa is? I vaguely recall him writing that Ozzie should be fired and LaRussa re-hired (when there were rumors last season that LaRussa would resign as Cards manager). The point is...LaRussa, with guys like Canseco and McGwire, twice in his case, has been one of the biggest steroid enablers in terms of managers. And they just traded for Glaus. Not to mention the whole DUI/player killed DUI incidents from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 11:40 AM) Yeah. Can't ignore those columns about his lame hall of fame ballot stunts two years in a row. I don't like Telander that much. Obviously everyone's going to have their own opinion anyway, but Telander... Zzzzzzz. Â Maybe, but Telander = Journalist. Mariotti = blogger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Melissa Isaacson is the best sports writer in Chicago. Â Mariotti belongs reporting on the comings and goings of Britney Spears. That's about his level of depth. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 10:33 AM) Just two weeks ago he wrote that the interest in Brian Roberts was a joke and the Cubs should steer clear and ripped the organization for even thinking about it. Perhaps check your facts.  link And that has what to do with what I said? Last I checked Roberts was on the O's and had nothing to do with the players mentioned in the report nor any of the ones I mentioned. In fact Marriotti wrongly states that it would hurt the Cub's integrity, which is a joke since they were a clear clubhouse full of juicers. Maybe you should check YOUR reading glasses. Edited January 25, 2008 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 09:02 AM) I was thinking about who Canseco could have named as a "bomb shell" and Maggs would be the best target. An All-Star slugger who was not named in any report, actually gives the book something unique. And it would be niave to think there were no juicers on the Sox and that management did not know it. It was too common, too obvious to those that knew what to look for and where to look. And I think Mariotti could have thought up this article idea on his own. Say what you will about Jay, he knows how to get his name on everyone's lips and writing anything negative about the Sox gets all Sox fans in a tizzy. Funny that this will probably have Sox fans defending Maggs, something I thought I would never see.  You'll never see me defending Maggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 12:15 PM) You'll never see me defending Maggs. Didn't you name your daughter Maggliana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 12:10 PM) Maybe you should check YOUR reading glasses. I don't wear glasses nor reading glasses and have 20/20 vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Can someone explain to me why Maggs wasn't mentioned in the first book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 12:32 PM) I don't wear glasses nor reading glasses and have 20/20 vision. 20/10 for me. Maybe you should also be super human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 12:42 PM) 20/10 for me. Maybe you should also be super human. I'll just settle for super cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 clearly Phil Rogers and his +/- system propelled him to best columnist in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(bmags @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 12:53 PM) clearly Phil Rogers and his +/- system propelled him to best columnist in Chicago. HAHAHA. Â That was the dumbest s*** I've ever read. Â well played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I had a pretty solid argument with Chris DeLuca via email the other day, he clearly doesnt do much research when he told me 2002 was the best pitching season Buehrle ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsgdf_2 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Â Mariotti is never interesting and his writing skills are way overrated. I only bother skimming his crap, when someone posts a link or tells me I should check it out. I'm disappointed in myself for even contributing to this thread. Â Anyway, again this morning he serves up a big load of crap (how shocking). The Tigers lineup currently features Sheffield, Pudge and Maggs. The Yankees will have Pettitte in the rotation and Giambi at 1B. The Rangers and A's have been sticking thenselves in the asses for at least 15 years. To single out the White Sox is just really idiotic. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yeah I don't understand the meaning of decided to bring up this that was fromm 7 years ago. It's not like the Sox were the only team to have signed Canseco. The A's, Rangers, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Devil Rays, Yankees, and Expos all had him on their team. Even though I don't think he played on the Expos. Plus I might be missing a team or two, not quite sure. Basically he played on a 1/4 of the teams in the league. If we're going to talk steriods, the Cubs should be on the forefront as well. Sammy Sosa is probably a jucier, Rondell White was in the steriod report, and I have a hunch Henry Rodriguez probably did steriods too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 12:58 PM) I had a pretty solid argument with Chris DeLuca via email the other day, he clearly doesnt do much research when he told me 2002 was the best pitching season Buehrle ever had. Why would he ever claim that? It's blatantly obvious that it was 2005 and I'd even take 2001 over 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 01:58 PM) Why would he ever claim that? It's blatantly obvious that it was 2005 and I'd even take 2001 over 2002. Its actually a funny exchange, he thought I was criticizing him from an email I wrote him on his article that I didnt think was totally well researched, and he snapped at me and said 2002 was clearly his best season ERA wise, and I corrected him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Moronotti prolly wrote this only because today is the 1st day of SoxFest and wants other people (Namely Sox fans) to do his bidding at the seminars since he NEVER does it. Ozzie was right a couple of yrs ago, he's a big sissy who hides behind his undeserved moniker of "columnist". Hopefully, his name doesn't come up this weekend cuz it only keeps him in town. The less he's talked about, the more he'll be GAWN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Buerhle's rookie year was so great. In a very painful year to watch barring that 22-7 stretch, he was so excellent. Â edit: first year as a starter, not rookie Edited January 25, 2008 by bmags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Who cares, The Sox and every other owner were pretty much enablers in this matter. Even if some owners didn't like it, not one of them said or did anything to stop it. This isn't news at all. Moronotti just trying to stir the pot as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg The Bull Luzinski Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 It still boggles my mind why Sox fans continue to react to somebody with A) with no journalistic responsbility and B ) is only tries to get a rise out of the public like Howard Stern. When people stop tuning in to find out his next idiotic rambling, he will soon be unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jan 25, 2008 -> 04:08 PM) It still boggles my mind why Sox fans continue to react to somebody with A) with no journalistic responsbility and B ) is only tries to get a rise out of the public like Howard Stern. When people stop tuning in to find out his next idiotic rambling, he will soon be unemployed. But is anyone going to rush out and buy the paper or subscribe because everyone here thinks moronoti sucks? I don't see how this negative talk helps his bosses sell papers. Frankly, just about ALL the baseball coverage in the Sun Times sucks. Just about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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