A deal has been reached. More to come.

A deal has been reached. More to come.

Oh my word...

I assume no deal will be made by the Obama team unless it doesn't really hurt him in the long run.

Apparently it is 69-59 for Clinton. This via MSNBC, not links I have seen yet.

Apparently it is 69-59 for Clinton. This via MSNBC, not links I have seen yet.

 

How does that impact things for Obama?

Apparently it is 69-59 for Clinton. This via MSNBC, not links I have seen yet.

So it changes nothing really. This is quite the joke regardless.

 

Ten whopping delegates Hillary. Go home.

So it changes nothing really. This is quite the joke regardless.

 

Ten whopping delegates Hillary. Go home.

I think this is part of the "peace making" between Clinton and Obama so she will drop out.

Any "deal" that seats delegates at anything other than 50-50 from Michigan is a slap to the face of Democratic voters in the other 49 states. What a joke. Clinton was the only one on the f***ing ballot.

 

Any "deal" that seats delegates at anything other than 50-50 from Michigan is a slap to the face of Democratic voters in the other 49 states. What a joke. Clinton was the only one on the f***ing ballot.

Or, you know, they could just not seat them as Michigan broke the rules.

Clinton did get 55% of the vote, so I can understand getting a small bonus for that. A 10 delegate boost would be fine, I still think that the total number of delegates should be halved, however, and Michigan superdelegates should not be seated.

 

I can understand not punishing the at large state party for the sins of the party bosses... but giving those party bosses who broke the rules their votes back at the convention seems wrong to me IMO.

Clinton did get 55% of the vote

And Obama wasn't on the ticket. I don't see the fairness that she should get an advantage.

So if it is 69-59, how does that impact the delegate race?

I'm just not happy with changing the rules in mid stream. I am also not happy with delegates not having their voices heard. So there was no win anywhere that I saw. Those that followed Michigan closer please chime in but, it seems like Michigan would have been a Clinton state and in a straight up, "normal" primary, it would be fair to say at that point in the campaign she would have won.

 

I know that you could not point to anything to "prove" that statement, JMO

I am hoping I didnt over state this as fact. I cant find any other info on this and MSNBC has moved on to other stories. I hope it wasnt a "speculation" report and I missed the part where they said that.

My feelings are that the Dems are trying to get Obama to the required amount of delegates prior to the convention.

But if you count the Michigan delegates, the number to reach the nomination just went up from 2,025 to ????.

 

Exactly.

 

The amazing thing is, this actually hurts Hillary. Because his margin ahead of her is so big compared to the amount of delegates left, all this does is move it closer to completion.

I'm just not happy with changing the rules in mid stream. I am also not happy with delegates not having their voices heard. So there was no win anywhere that I saw. Those that followed Michigan closer please chime in but, it seems like Michigan would have been a Clinton state and in a straight up, "normal" primary, it would be fair to say at that point in the campaign she would have won.

 

I know that you could not point to anything to "prove" that statement, JMO

Here's the one big issue and big reason for allowing them in...November. If you're going to put a middle finger to Michigan and Florida in the spring, then why shouldn't they do the same to your party in the fall? That's 95% of the motivation for getting something done.

But if you count the Michigan delegates, the number to reach the nomination just went up from 2,025 to ????.

with MI it is 2088

with FL it is 2180.5 if my numbers are right

 

That doesn't factor in Superdelegates from those states that I THINK dont count currently

But if you count the Michigan delegates, the number to reach the nomination just went up from 2,025 to ????.

 

Huh, well was it even possible to reach the delegate number? How was that numebr set? I know Edwards got some delegates but he get that many?

I think this may be a non-story. MSNBC isnt talking about it anymore and I would think this would be a MUCH bigger story if it were true.

Nothing on Huffington Post, TalkingPointsMemo, or Politco.

When I was watching the news this morning it sounded like they said they were working on a possible deal similar to what you said. They didn't actually say a deal was reached though.

More info on MSNBC right now.

This is a PROPOSED deal by the democratic party of Michigan. Nothing official from either campaign, but their seems to be good support from BOTH sides for this deal. The person from Michigan being interviewed seemed VERY optimistic this would happen soon.

Edited May 8, 200817 yr by Athomeboy_2000

This is different from the original position that Obama opposed isn't it?

 

In Florida, I can't see anything short of a revote solving that.