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Greatest manager of all time

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anywhere from 823 BC to 2008 AD

 

I don't consider those earlier than 823 BC to be baseball managers. Too violent and rude to the public

 

/waits

Tom Kelly.

 

The man won two titles with a minimal salary budget, Kirby Puckett, Frank Viola and some fillins.

Ozzie Guillen.

 

The man who can start winning streaks just by cursing about imaginary deadlines.

mike scioscia
QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 07:51 AM)
mike scioscia

 

Why is this in green? Scioscia is a pretty good manager

Sparky Anderson or Joe Torre.

 

I actually think Gardenhire is the best right now, though.

terry bevington :lol:

Earl Weaver.

 

He was all about sabermetrics before it was cool, man.

 

(But seriously, Weaver was damn good judging by what I've read...as I'm obviously not old enough to remember him in action)

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 08:32 AM)
Why is this in green? Scioscia is a pretty good manager

 

I was mocking Orlando Cabrera

Much as I despise him personally, I think Tony LaRussa has to be in this discussion. Very few have been able to do more with less.

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 09:03 AM)
Much as I despise him personally, I think Tony LaRussa has to be in this discussion. Very few have been able to do more with less.

Less than guys like Albert Pujols, Chris Carpenter, Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Dennis Eckersley, Rickey Henderson, Dave Stewart?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 10:11 AM)
Less than guys like Albert Pujols, Chris Carpenter, Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Dennis Eckersley, Rickey Henderson, Dave Stewart?

 

lol. the guy has managed over 30 years.......

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 09:26 AM)
lol. the guy has managed over 30 years.......

Very true...but if you're going to give him credit for doing "More with less", I think that it's a valid point that when he's done the most, he's had some of the best, most juiced up players in history.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 10:38 AM)
Very true...but if you're going to give him credit for doing "More with less", I think that it's a valid point that when he's done the most, he's had some of the best, most juiced up players in history.

Over his career, sure, he's had some greats. But looking at his TEAMS, up and down, I think he's among the best modern managers in taking teams beyond what they seemed capable of.

 

Connie Mack

Al Lopez

Walter Alston deserves to be mentioned. Bobby Cox. John McGraw.

Before it's all said and done, Bobby Cox's name should be brought into the discussion.

 

I don't care how good their scouting supposedly is.

 

14 first place finishes in 15 years is unbelievable.

Edited by scenario

Dusty Baker and Jerry Manuel :notworthy

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 10:38 AM)
Very true...but if you're going to give him credit for doing "More with less", I think that it's a valid point that when he's done the most, he's had some of the best, most juiced up players in history.

 

I give LaRussa a ton of credit for thinking outside the box and hiring a former catcher as his pitching coach in Dave Duncan. Dave Stewart and Dennis Eckersley wouldn't be who they were without LaRussa.

Bobby Cox

um, no one

 

managers don't really do s*** IMO

I'm not sure if it's fair, but I eliminate Yankee managers from this list because of how much talent they always had. Any idiot could manage that team throughout the vast majority of their history IMO.

 

However, I can't just pick one. If I had to make a short list though, it'd include Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, John McGraw, Sparky Anderson, and Walter Alston.

Edited by whitesoxfan101

Over the short term, Billy Martin was a damn good manager.

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