winninguglyin83 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 was watching Baseball tonight. I heard Gammons say that he thought Kenny Williams would stand pat at the trading deadline, unless a pitcher got hurt. But then I thought I heard him say that Paul Konerko had a setback this weekend. Is that so? And if so, what's the setback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Rotoworld.com Because of additional soreness in his oblique, Paul Konerko won't begin a rehab assignment as hoped on Monday. "Definitely some soreness, a little bit during and then after I hit [saturday], so the plan was to leave today, but the bottom line is there was a little too much soreness to get on a plane today and get ready to go tomorrow," Konerko explained. "That’s it. As far as a timeline, I don’t know now. I think the worse thing to do is to make a timeline like I had [saturday]. Now, just wait and see and that’s it." Don't count on him helping out this week. Source: Chicago Sun-Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Paulie ain't had much luck staying healthy this year. maybe the down town will help his hand, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 http://www.talkchicagosports.com/blog/?p=109 Paul Konerko, who has been on the disabled list with an oblique injury, participated in batting practice for the first time on Saturday. Following batting practice, the Sox were expecting to send Konerko out a rehabiliation stint in Charlotte on Sunday, but have pushed that back due to there being a bit more soreness than expected. No new time-table has been established, but the Sox still expect Konerko to be back in the lineup within the next two weeks. Gage’s Take: Konerko has struggled this season, but its pretty evident those struggles have been due to a combination of injuries (hand and oblique). I could debate whether Konerko fits into the long-term plans of the Sox, but there is no denying that a healthy and productive Konerko would be a great addition to any contending teams lineup. Let alone a team which has relied on terrible production from first place all season (Note: Injured Konerko was the guy putting up that production). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 10:10 PM) Let Paul take all the time he needs. He can be huge for this team if he comes back healthy, but right now, I like the makeup of the team. When it comes to this season, Paul has not been productive at the plate, and with Swisher at 1B, and Anderson in CF, the D is vastly improved. Agreed. I REALLY like Swish at 1B too....MUCH better team defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 10:53 PM) Agreed. I REALLY like Swish at 1B too....MUCH better team defensively. eh, i dont know, i think pauly defends his position really well. he always makes those stops you expect to get through. wouldn't say it's MUCH improved. maybe a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 04:14 AM) Konerko has become a master of the pick, but his range is non-existent. Swisher is a much better all around first basemen. Yes, Swisher has made some plays look easy that PK might not have made. Ward's grounder in the 9th yesterday was a perfect example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCQ Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Yes and with Swish at first Anderson is playing a great cf improving outfield defense as well as infield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 11:14 PM) Konerko has become a master of the pick, but his range is non-existent. Swisher is a much better all around first basemen. I agree that Swish is a much better firstbaseman. However, I think Paulie's defense is generally underrated. He's been very solid over there for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 The longer Konerko is out, the better this team plays. Swisher at 1B helps our OF by having Anderson or Wise in CF. That and Konerko's .215 average make him rather worthless to the squad. We lose NOTHING without him in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 07:38 AM) The longer Konerko is out, the better this team plays. Swisher at 1B helps our OF by having Anderson or Wise in CF. That and Konerko's .215 average make him rather worthless to the squad. We lose NOTHING without him in there. OR, he hasn't been preforming this season due to his injuries and with him being injured we are losing out on a big bat in the middle of the order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 08:40 AM) OR, he hasn't been preforming this season due to his injuries and with him being injured we are losing out on a big bat in the middle of the order... We aren't really losing out on a big bat though. We've got plenty of boppers in the lineup. Anyone who thinks this team is better with Konerko is sorely mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 08:42 AM) We aren't really losing out on a big bat though. We've got plenty of boppers in the lineup. Anyone who thinks this team is better with Konerko is sorely mistaken. So, you are telling me that this team is better WITHOUT a healthy and productive Paul Konerko? WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 08:45 AM) So, you are telling me that this team is better WITHOUT a healthy and productive Paul Konerko? WOW! A productive Konerko may be a thing of the past. At this point he's too streaky. If you think you're ever seeing Paul Konerko hit .280 again, well, props to you, because I just don't see it. At this point, at best, he's a .260/30/90 guy. With the boppers we have elsewhere in the lineup, I'll take the defense in the outfield and Swisher's increased range at 1B over that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 07:45 AM) So, you are telling me that this team is better WITHOUT a healthy and productive Paul Konerko? WOW! ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 we need konerko -- and Thome -- to each get on a nice two or three-week roll. That said, Paulie does not make the throw to first to double off the runner in the ninth inning that Swish made last night, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (YASNY @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 03:57 AM) I agree that Swish is a much better firstbaseman. However, I think Paulie's defense is generally underrated. He's been very solid over there for quite some time. He picks them with the very best of em and gets to anything hit near him. The only area he actually lacks is in the range department and I'd agree that Swisher is all around better, but not by a whole lot. I also think Swish is one of the best defensive 1st baseman in the game (as he should be, considering he is capable of playing CF). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 29, 2008 -> 06:10 PM) (Note: Injured Konerko was the guy putting up that production). um... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 11:54 AM) um... I'm pretty sure he meant "the lack thereof." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) He picks them with the very best of em and gets to anything hit near him. The only area he actually lacks is in the range department and I'd agree that Swisher is all around better, but not by a whole lot. I also think Swish is one of the best defensive 1st baseman in the game (as he should be, considering he is capable of playing CF). I agree with every word of this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 11:53 AM) He picks them with the very best of em and gets to anything hit near him. The only area he actually lacks is in the range department and I'd agree that Swisher is all around better, but not by a whole lot. I also think Swish is one of the best defensive 1st baseman in the game (as he should be, considering he is capable of playing CF). The skill set for a CF and a corner infielder are totally different, though. Not that you're wrong. Just saying, I don't think one has anything to do with the other. In fact I would say having a plus defender at CF play 1B, even if he is good at 1B, is a total waste. Edited June 30, 2008 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Konerko is a bonafide 2nd half hitter in his career. Let him rest up and get completely healthy until the ASB. Now's a good chance to see what BA is made of for the next couple of weeks anyways. Paulie will be back in the lineup when he's ready, and I think he could go on a tear. He's not going to keep hitting .215. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 08:56 AM) The skill set for a CF and a corner infielder are totally different, though. Not that you're wrong. Just saying, I don't think one has anything to do with the other. In fact I would say having a plus defender at CF play 1B, even if he is good at 1B, is a total waste. I agree completely, but I'm also saying that someone who plays CF should be one of the premiere defensive 1st baseman with a bit of experience (because "defensive" tools a Cfer possesses is superior to those a 1B possesses). Heck, just look at Darin Erstad, he was an absolutel stud at 1st (than again, in his prime, he was an absolutely stud in CF too). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 10:57 AM) Konerko is a bonafide 2nd half hitter in his career. Let him rest up and get completely healthy until the ASB. Now's a good chance to see what BA is made of for the next couple of weeks anyways. Paulie will be back in the lineup when he's ready, and I think he could go on a tear. He's not going to keep hitting .215. Paulie is a proven solid major league hitter that has struggled due to a couple of nagging injuries. It's very difficult to perform at the major league level when you are 100%, let alone when you aren't. Look at the difference between '07 and '08 for Toby Hall. I can't believe people that just want to throw Paulie under the bus when he has been so solid for so long in a Sox uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 30, 2008 -> 08:54 AM) um... Basically I wanted to remind people that Konerko is the one responsible for the poor production at first this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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