lostfan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 12:20 PM) I think shortly after he picked Palin, he realized he made a HUGE mistake based on advise from people who were supposed to single out the best possible candidate. But, he had to put forward a strong front, so he fought on, even after it became clear she was no where NEAR ready for the job. What was TRUELY startling about the Palin pick was the #3 reason who his advisers suggested her: "wow... just look at her". If you #3 reason is her looks, that's a loosing proposition. I think that was a subtle way of him admitting "yeah, I blew it." Of course, Palin supporters, delusional as they are, think McCain blew it on his own, and she only added votes. Yeah, not so much. The polling data was there for all to see, and the truth will manifest itself for them during the GOP primaries. Edited April 14, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 11:26 AM) I think that was a subtle way of him admitting "yeah, I blew it." Of course, Palin supporters, delusional as they are, think McCain blew it on his own, and she only added votes. Yeah, not so much. The polling data was there for all to see, and the truth will manifest itself for them during the GOP primaries. Palin added voters int he short term. That initial boost where McCain/Palin overtook Obama/Biden in the polling was shocking to me. I thought they would close the 9point gap, but not take the lead. but over time, she became a liability and it showed. The more she talked, the more McCain sank. Combine that with the debates, the bailout and the over all economy, he was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 12:30 PM) Palin added voters int he short term. That initial boost where McCain/Palin overtook Obama/Biden in the polling was shocking to me. I thought they would close the 9point gap, but not take the lead. but over time, she became a liability and it showed. The more she talked, the more McCain sank. Combine that with the debates, the bailout and the over all economy, he was done. That was also right at convention time, I wasn't surprised at all. It was an exaggerated convention bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 seriously, when McCain had a convention bounce he was "taking the lead" when Obama had a convention bounce, it was a convention bounce. No matter if you thought there were more favorable articles about Obama, the polling data submitted by major newspapers tried to help out mccain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) seriously, when McCain had a convention bounce he was "taking the lead" when Obama had a convention bounce, it was a convention bounce. No matter if you thought there were more favorable articles about Obama, the polling data submitted by major newspapers tried to help out mccain. Exactly. McCain's convention bounce just happened to be amplified by the unknown that was Palin at the time, and the fact that he hadn't led before. But he would've led no matter what, and come back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Next Up: The Republican States of America! GOP Officially Endorses Tea Bag parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 who said comedians would have no material after Bush left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:25 PM) who said comedians would have no material after Bush left? I, for one, endorse Tea bagging the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 And you have stuff like this: Anti-Gay Rights Group Calls its Marriage Campaign '2M4M' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 And in Cavuto’s defense, if you are planning simultaneous tea bagging all around the country, you’re going to need a Dick Armey. MSNBC's David Schuster. I don't know whether or not he realized what he'd just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) MSNBC's David Schuster. I don't know whether or not he realized what he'd just said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) MSNBC's David Schuster. I don't know whether or not he realized what he'd just said. Having watched Schuster, he knew EXACTLY what he was saying. Â By the way, that is funny as hell. Edited April 14, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 12:31 PM) Having watched Schuster, he knew EXACTLY what he was saying. Either way...he deserves applause for it. Probably the best line of the whole phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) And for those who dont know, these tea bag parties are not being organized by "regular" people. They are being organized by corporate lobbyists and Republican think tanks. Edited April 14, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 lol this is what I was talking about when I posted in the GOP thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1868902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 02:35 PM) And for those who dont know, these tea bag parties are not being organized by "regular" people. They are being organized by corporate lobbyists and Republican think tanks. Â The immigration rallies of the last few years were largely organized by labor unions and other Democratic organizations, does that diminish them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 03:05 PM) The immigration rallies of the last few years were largely organized by labor unions and other Democratic organizations, does that diminish them? to an extent, yes. Because it looses it's authenticity to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:05 PM) The immigration rallies of the last few years were largely organized by labor unions and other Democratic organizations, does that diminish them? ? Â At least the impression I got was that the big ones in L.A. in 2006 came about through a combination of a hell of a lot of text messages and a few statements by the guys on the latino radio stations out here. Â Are you referring to some other set of rallies or can you dispute the impression I got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 01:05 PM) The immigration rallies of the last few years were largely organized by labor unions and other Democratic organizations, does that diminish them? ? Â At least the impression I got was that the big ones in L.A. in 2006 came about through a combination of a hell of a lot of text messages and a few statements by the guys on the latino radio stations out here. Â Are you referring to some other set of rallies or can you dispute the impression I got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 14, 2009 -> 03:08 PM) ? At least the impression I got was that the big ones in L.A. in 2006 came about through a combination of a hell of a lot of text messages and a few statements by the guys on the latino radio stations out here.  Are you referring to some other set of rallies or can you dispute the impression I got?  In Chicago, the SEIU was the big organizer. I have pictures of them in their colored shirts directing traffic and organizing the crowds. The random gathering crap was a myth. The unions were totally behind the organization of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Want to make Obama's speech today look like the right thing for America? bring on Ron Paul to rebut it... like MSNBC is doing right now. All he has to do is talk and everyone else looks right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 the immigration rallies typically got more than a handful of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Don't necessarily agree with everything he says, especially on the bank bailouts, but I think the President's speech today is a solid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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