November 13, 200817 yr More I think of it, the more I hate it... Swish was a solid OBP guy and the Sox are sorely lacking in that area. Now they only have Q and Thome who will more times than not give the lineup a solid AB taking a ton of pitches. Swish should have been hitting 1 or 2 all year, Ozzie didn't use him right. Hope KW has more up his sleeve (which I'm sure he does, I am going into 1st move of the post season panic mode) because starting Fields, Getz, and BA or GOD FORBID Owens doesn't quite do it for me
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:44 PM) There must be more moves in the works. You don't just give away a guy like Swisher without other stuff in the works. yea. bcuz thats what we did, gave him away. dumped salary i guess lol
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) More I think of it, the more I hate it... Swish was a solid OBP guy and the Sox are sorely lacking in that area. Now they only have Q and Thome who will more times than not give the lineup a solid AB taking a ton of pitches. Swish should have been hitting 1 or 2 all year, Ozzie didn't use him right. Hope KW has more up his sleeve (which I'm sure he does, I am going into 1st move of the post season panic mode) because starting Fields, Getz, and BA or GOD FORBID Owens doesn't quite do it for me I honestly think KW believes the window for this team to compete might be over, and that's why you hear names like Dye, Jenks, Swisher, and Konerko being thrown around.
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) yea. bcuz thats what we did, gave him away. dumped salary i guess lol If we had to dump his salary, then we might as well have a fire sale.
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (sircaffey @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) At least give me Melky in this thing. That would be the only saving grace for me in this deal.
November 13, 200817 yr Yeah, if we traded Swish for what looks to be a mediocre prospect then KW really f***ed up. We gave up 3 good looking young players for Swish. The money Swish is owed over the next couple years is not a bad thing considering Swish is still young and will most likely play better than last year. There better be more to this.
November 13, 200817 yr Marquez spent some time on the disabled list season, can't find any specifics on the injury but the guy is a friggin' twig (6'2, 175), better not be elbow soreness.
November 13, 200817 yr Melky's a joke. You do not give away Swisher like this. This is B.S. One down year, and we bail for a bust of an arm? Are you serious?
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 03:44 PM) cant listen live to the score through their website anymore? The link is in the top right corner now.
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:39 PM) Great, so we traded 3 of our top prospects for one year of terrible baseball and nothing in terms of prospects. This also means Konerko is going nowhere. Yeah, this flat out sucks. It was bad enough we paid so highly for Swisher. Now we've ended up trading Sweeney, Gio and DeLosSantos for this guy? Looks like Kenny screwed the pooch on Swisher both coming and going.
November 13, 200817 yr Like I always say to myself after KWs first move, lets let this play out and see what he is trying to do before we judge this move
November 13, 200817 yr There'll be more to this surely. You don't give up on a guy for just 1 minor league player. And I don't really want Melky, he's regressed offensively. My guess is there's more young pitching to be included in the deal.
November 13, 200817 yr http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/pop...&src=sports ^There's an interview with the guy. Anyone know what he's got in his arsenal?
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) I honestly think KW believes the window for this team to compete might be over, and that's why you hear names like Dye, Jenks, Swisher, and Konerko being thrown around. I highly doubt KW thinks this team needs to be torn apart. If he went into the 08 season thinking he could win the division after 07 there's no way in hell he's going to think different after we just won the division and had 4 young guys put up some very good numbers. Edited November 13, 200817 yr by Whitewashed in '05
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (G&T @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:47 PM) The link is in the top right corner now. i couldnt find it, thank you
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) Like I always say to myself after KWs first move, lets let this play out and see what he is trying to do before we judge this move I agree that KW has earned this, but if the Sox only got this one player than this is a bad move. In his first full 2 years he had an OPS+ of over 120 and he was bad with the Sox last year, but his OPS+ was still 92, below average, but not as horrible as everyone makes it out to be (granted he had a HUGE month that skews that). KW will make more moves, but this is selling low on a good player Edited November 13, 200817 yr by SoxFan562004
November 13, 200817 yr Melky isn't even worth Swisher. It's a bad sign that Marquez was the first guy named too.
November 13, 200817 yr If's it just Swisher for Marquez, that's worse than the Marlins/Nationals trade from last week.
November 13, 200817 yr QUOTE (DBAHO @ Nov 13, 2008 -> 02:48 PM) There'll be more to this surely. You don't give up on a guy for just 1 minor league player. And I don't really want Melky, he's regressed offensively. My guess is there's more young pitching to be included in the deal. no way thats all we get for swish
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