November 19, 200817 yr Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. I wonder how many times Joey has gotten interviews and failed?
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 08:21 AM) Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. I wonder how many times Joey has gotten interviews and failed? He really wanted this job. He was jockeying heavily for it. (If someone looks like he can jockey, its Joey) He had Ozzie, KW and JR call on his behalf. The Mariners have a chance to actually be decent in time. I think Joey will eventually land a job where he's doomed to get fired after a couple seasons of losing. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, something like that.
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 09:30 AM) He really wanted this job. He was jockeying heavily for it. (If someone looks like he can jockey, its Joey) He had Ozzie, KW and JR call on his behalf. The Mariners have a chance to actually be decent in time. I think Joey will eventually land a job where he's doomed to get fired after a couple seasons of losing. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, something like that. The A's organization is developing quite a pedigree with Francona, Wash, Macha, and now Waka really branching out. Edited November 19, 200817 yr by Thunderbolt
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:05 AM) The A's organization is develooping quite a pedigree with Francona, Wash, Mancha, and now Waka really branching out. The Man from LaMacha...not to mention they incubated GM's Ricciardi and DiPodesta (not for long in LA), maybe I'm leaving a few others out. Grady Fuson.
November 19, 200817 yr The Mariners screwed this one up like they've screwed everything up the last couple of years. Cora would make a great manager.
November 19, 200817 yr Good, maybe he can coach 3rd again and do things like wave AJ Pierzynski around on an infield single and get thrown out by 55 feet.
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:29 AM) Good, maybe he can coach 3rd again and do things like wave AJ Pierzynski around on an infield single and get thrown out by 55 feet. OMG I'M SHOCKED SOMEONE WENT THERE!
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 10:28 AM) The Mariners screwed this one up like they've screwed everything up the last couple of years. Cora would make a great manager. I believe Seattle's new GM is going to implement a sabermetric approach... So, the two guys they were most serious about were coaches from Oakland and Boston... guys already indoctrinated to that approach. Edited November 19, 200817 yr by scenario
November 19, 200817 yr Good, maybe he can coach 3rd again and do things like wave AJ Pierzynski around on an infield single and get thrown out by 55 feet. Are you seriously trying to tell me we're better off with Cox at 3rd?
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 11:36 AM) OMG I'M SHOCKED SOMEONE WENT THERE! I never miss an opportunity to do that.
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) Are you seriously trying to tell me we're better off with Cox at 3rd? Would you rather be pissed on or s*** on?
November 19, 200817 yr Some in the organization wanted Cora apparently, but as was previously said, Wakamatsu's sabermatric approach made him the ideal fit for the new M's GM. Joey will get a job one day I'm sure.
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 11:40 AM) Would you rather be pissed on or s*** on? I'll go with s*** on.
November 19, 200817 yr Good, maybe he can coach 3rd again and do things like wave AJ Pierzynski around on an infield single and get thrown out by 55 feet. It's funny how sometimes third base coaches want to believe our plodders can somehow make it home on a single to left or center from second base. Then reality sets in and our only hope of getting the runner in is a horrible throw. Not complaining. Our home run era has been exciting, but the coaches at third need to get real and never get a plodder throw out.
November 19, 200817 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 03:34 PM) It's funny how sometimes third base coaches want to believe our plodders can somehow make it home on a single to left or center from second base. Then reality sets in and our only hope of getting the runner in is a horrible throw. Not complaining. Our home run era has been exciting, but the coaches at third need to get real and never get a plodder throw out. In their defense even slow guys can make it home on a liner to the outfield, usually. Cora just used to have me throwing things with his over-aggressiveness and wasted outs. Ugh.
November 19, 200817 yr I like Joey Cora and if he isn't going to manage somewhere I am very glad he is staying with the Sox and his pal Ozzie Guillen
November 20, 200817 yr QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 05:55 PM) I like Joey Cora and if he isn't going to manage somewhere I am very glad he is staying with the Sox and his pal Ozzie Guillen We need him for when ozzie is going off on the umpires after getting tossed and he runs out to hold ozzie back.
November 20, 200817 yr Doesn't Ozzie always tell Cora to get ready to manage whenever he hears a certain umpire is doing the game? Who is it, Cuzzi?
November 20, 200817 yr I think he definitely deserved the M's managerial position but I'm glad he's staying.
November 20, 200817 yr Don't undersell the fact that Wakamatsu's Japanese heritage may have something to do with his selection also, the Mariners have been trying to appeal to the Japanese market and lost some of the focus when Daisuke came over, this will help get them in the headlines in Japan again and can help them in their efforts to sign more Japanese players. Probably not the PC thing to say, but the Mariners really seem to embrace the Asian/American and Japanese markets. So if you have two equal candidates that would be enough to decide it for me from a business standpoint.
November 20, 200817 yr Talk about going through a stretch with very little Sox news. We have a pretty active thread on Joey Cora. *yawn*
November 20, 200817 yr I've been impressed by what little I've heard from Cora, and he was a pretty smart player. However, he's a little runt. I do think it's important for a professional manager or head coach to be somewhat of a physical threat to his players. It rarely comes to that, but the threat should be present in my opinion. I think there's a good chance that players would take advantage of little Joey. Whatever the case, Cora needs to be more fan friendly. I've got a single-signed W.S. ball of everyone who was in uniform for us even for one game in 2005...everyone that is except Cora. I've talked with other collectors who have had the same problem with him. It's not like the guy is hounded for autographs. Yet he's completely ignored me a couple times after I asked him politely when he walked right in front of me after batting practice. Weird.
November 21, 200817 yr QUOTE (BainesHOF @ Nov 20, 2008 -> 05:28 PM) I've been impressed by what little I've heard from Cora, and he was a pretty smart player. However, he's a little runt. I do think it's important for a professional manager or head coach to be somewhat of a physical threat to his players. It rarely comes to that, but the threat should be present in my opinion. I think there's a good chance that players would take advantage of little Joey. Whatever the case, Cora needs to be more fan friendly. I've got a single-signed W.S. ball of everyone who was in uniform for us even for one game in 2005...everyone that is except Cora. I've talked with other collectors who have had the same problem with him. It's not like the guy is hounded for autographs. Yet he's completely ignored me a couple times after I asked him politely when he walked right in front of me after batting practice. Weird. Based on what you just wrote here, I'd ignore you too. He's a little runt? WTF is up with that. Were ever s starter on a ML baseball team? Have you ever interviewed for a manager's position on a MLB team? Accomplishment-wise, who's the runt?
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