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Tigers Lose 14,000+ Season Tickets From '08?

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Wow, if that's true that's crazy. I wonder if they tried to dump some of those guys but no interest due to the contracts.

If they get off to a bad start they are in trouble. Than again, you could say that about the Sox if they have an awful season.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 7, 2009 -> 04:38 PM)
If they get off to a bad start they are in trouble. Than again, you could say that about the Sox if they have an awful season.

Chicago doesn't have nearly the economic collapse worries that Detroit currently does.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 7, 2009 -> 06:49 PM)
Chicago doesn't have nearly the economic collapse worries that Detroit currently does.

That and a lot of the Sox current heavy contracts are gone after this year, so the Sox would just have to eat it for a year and be back at square one after the season where the Tigers have alot of money sticking around. Man, Fukudome helped the Sox dodge a major bullet by taking the Cubs offer

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Mar 7, 2009 -> 05:03 PM)
That and a lot of the Sox current heavy contracts are gone after this year, so the Sox would just have to eat it for a year and be back at square one after the season where the Tigers have alot of money sticking around. Man, Fukudome helped the Sox dodge a major bullet by taking the Cubs offer

And Torii Hunter.

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The Sox have done a really nice job of managing their payroll. Big contracts will be rolling off the payroll over the next two years with hopefully Beckham, Vicideo, Flowers, and Poreda rolling on.

Detroit deff. not looking to good

Well they have an ownership group that can afford to take some losses, the question becomes how big of a bullet are they willing to bite? You could be talking about Coyote-like losses if they go into the season with a $120ish million dollar payroll and looking at an attendence level of under 2 million people. I imagine their corporate sponsors are also flying out of the doors as well.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Mar 7, 2009 -> 06:49 PM)
Cabrera isn't going anywhere. If needed, you sell everything, and build around him.

 

They have some terrible deals on the books. Carlos Guillen is making 13 million in 2010 and 2011, Bonderman is making 12.5 in 2010, Dontrelle is making 12 million in 2010, along with Inge making 6.6 in 2010.

 

Ouch.

 

 

Not to mention Gary Sheffield, a $3 million buyout for Edgar Renteria and Robertson's contract, which is maybe the worst considering he was one of the least serviceable fifth starters in all of baseball last year. Ordonez certainly isn't cheap, as he's basically just a DH playing the outfield, like Dye.

 

They're starting to pay Verlander more and more, and he's far from being the ace we felt he would be in 2006. Granderson, Cabrera, Verlander and Porcello might be something to build around, we'll just have to wait and see.

 

They've also traded away valuable pieces in A. Miller (good timing), but Maybin and J. Jurgens were (and will be) huge losses.

 

 

WOW. maybe we need to revisit the "teams that will fold or move" thread. wow... that really stings.

This doesn't surprise me at all. Detroit is basically America's answer to Beirut as it is, a complete hellhole (sorry if you live in Detroit, but it's true.) Combine that with the fact that they finished in dead last in 2008, the economic collapse is making things much worse in Detroit and even causing problems in their normally posh suburbs, and you end up with news like the title of this thread. This is big trouble for them though moreso than it even would be for most teams because of all of the contracts/big payroll they have.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Mar 8, 2009 -> 07:07 AM)
WOW. maybe we need to revisit the "teams that will fold or move" thread. wow... that really stings.

 

I don't think they will fold, but they will go back to a small budget team. Either that or Illitch is going to eat $50,000,000 ish a year.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 7, 2009 -> 07:49 PM)
Chicago doesn't have nearly the economic collapse worries that Detroit currently does.

 

I just read today that the City of Detroit has a 22% unemployment rate right now. That is a Great Depression type number.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 24, 2009 -> 02:30 PM)
I just read today that the City of Detroit has a 22% unemployment rate right now. That is a Great Depression type number.

When you're there, its hard to believe its a major US city. It was about 15% in 2005 with 33% of residents living below the poverty line. The poverty line is 19k for a family of 4, 9k for a single.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 24, 2009 -> 02:35 PM)
When you're there, its hard to believe its a major US city. It was about 15% in 2005 with 33% of residents living below the poverty line. The poverty line is 19k for a family of 4, 9k for a single.

 

Are these metro numbers or city proper? I know not many people still live within city limits compared to many major metropolitan regions. Still is a telling stat, though.

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