I believe Joseba Beloki is the only one of those five TDF riders to have never been suspended for doping.

 

Also, I would wager the reason that Lance is backing down is that George Hincapie was going to testify against Lance. Stripping the yellow jerseys this way doesn't lose him his endorsements. Stripping it by exposing him as a fraud costs him more than a few trophies in his case.

I believe Joseba Beloki is the only one of those five TDF riders to have never been suspended for doping.

 

Also, I would wager the reason that Lance is backing down is that George Hincapie was going to testify against Lance. Stripping the yellow jerseys this way doesn't lose him his endorsements. Stripping it by exposing him as a fraud costs him more than a few trophies in his case.

Can you explain who that is?

I've always been suspicious of him. Some of it because of his comeback and some because of the dirty sport that is cycling.

 

 

But what he's done outside of cycling was probably worth the cheating part of his career.

 

 

 

This sport is so dirty its not even funny. They should just embrace the cheating and let the guys ride. It's basically World's Strongest Man on bicycles.

I hate most guys who use roids etc in sports.

 

Lance I'll give a pass on. If he cheated he sure used his publicity and story to help a lot of people. The guy is hero cheater or not.

All this proves is you might as well cheat, become famous and make millions.

 

Who cares if you are stripped of titles years down the road, it really doesnt change anything.

 

As for cheating, its part of the game. If you are hyper-competitive you are going to look for anyway to get an advantage. Bending the rules is no better than blatant cheating.

Can you explain who that is?

 

George Hincapie was basically Lance's super domestique. Big stars don't win without the support of a team. He was Lance's main support on every one of the seven Tours that Lance won. He's also got a great reputation for being pretty honest - not the kind of brash liar that previous accusers have been - like Tyler Hamilton or Floyd Landis. He's also the only rider who rode with Lance for every one of Lance's seven winning tours. He has nothing to gain by rolling over on Lance.

What do Alex Zulle, Jan Ullrich, Joseba Beloki, Andreas Kloden, and Ivan Basso all have in common? They all now own TDF titles (Ullrich with 3 of them). Somebody convince me that those guys were any less doped up than Lance and then I'll agree that taking the titles away from Lance makes any sense.

 

This is why stripping titles is useless.

 

I hate most guys who use roids etc in sports.

 

Lance I'll give a pass on. If he cheated he sure used his publicity and story to help a lot of people. The guy is hero cheater or not.

 

This. LIVESTRONG was a great campaign and the site is a great source for helping people with health related things.

This. LIVESTRONG was a great campaign and the site is a great source for helping people with health related things.

What does it say about all the good that was done if it was all based on a lie?

What does it say about all the good that was done if it was all based on a lie?

 

Motivation for doing good things says nothing about the good thing itself. Only the person behind it.

I think im going to stop wearing my livestrong bracelet now for fear that it may soon go out of style.

Major kudos to Taylor Phinney for his silver medal at the World Time Trial championships, just missing gold by 5 seconds. Even more amazing is that he gave up a certain gold medal in the Under-23 race (he's 22) to compete in the Elite race.

American cyclist Lance Armstrong was part of "the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen", the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency said Wednesday in advance of issuing its long-awaited report detailing the evidence it amassed against the seven-time Tour de France champion.

 

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Unsurprisingly, the UCI has agreed with USADA's findings and has officially stripped Armstrong of his titles.

 

The weird thing is now I can say I was present when the last American won the TDF, as we just happened to be on my family's one and only vacation to Europe and happened to be staying at a hotel less than a block of the Champs-Élysées when LeMond won for the third time in 1990 and I wandered out to catch the riders on their seven laps to finish off the final stage.

Someone floated a trial balloon of Armstrong coming out and admitting PED use.

Armstrong officially will admit running a drug program to Oprah.

Armstrong officially will admit running a drug program to Oprah.

 

Sooooooo cant he be indicted for lying under oath now? There is a video on deadspin of him saying over and over that he never doped or ran a drug program, and there are a few parts where he is saying that under oath.

 

 

Sooooooo cant he be indicted for lying under oath now? There is a video on deadspin of him saying over and over that he never doped or ran a drug program, and there are a few parts where he is saying that under oath.

 

First of all, we don't know exactly how much he admitted to Oprah. He may very well admit to having doped himself without admitting to the larger scheme.

 

Secondly, I would think he discussed the legal ramifications with his attorneys before talking to Oprah so I doubt he's saying anything that could land him in jail.

First of all, we don't know exactly how much he admitted to Oprah. He may very well admit to having doped himself without admitting to the larger scheme.

 

Secondly, I would think he discussed the legal ramifications with his attorneys before talking to Oprah so I doubt he's saying anything that could land him in jail.

 

Im just responding to what Balta posted. If he indeed says that he ran a doping program, you have to think the feds are going to come a knocking

Sooooooo cant he be indicted for lying under oath now? There is a video on deadspin of him saying over and over that he never doped or ran a drug program, and there are a few parts where he is saying that under oath.

 

I thought I read where the statute of limitations had expired for that stuff.

Im just responding to what Balta posted. If he indeed says that he ran a doping program, you have to think the feds are going to come a knocking

 

The link he posted does not in any way state that LA admitted to running a doping program. I don't know where that came from.

I thought I read where the statute of limitations had expired for that stuff.

 

For the actual doping offenses? Yes.

For lying to the Feds about it? No.

Armstrong officially will admit running a drug program to Oprah.

 

Of course he goes on Oprah, his arrogance has no limits.

 

Instead of asking about doping, I hope she asks about all the people he bullied and blackmailed.

2013 TDF starts tomorrow. Odds heavily favor Britain's Chris Froome.

 

Chris Froome (GBR) 8/11

Alberto Contador (ESP) 5/2

Joaquim Rodriguez (ESP) 16/1

Richie Porte (AUS) 20/1

Nairo Quintana (COL) 25/1

Cadel Evans (AUS) 28/1

Alejandro Valverde (ESP) 28/1

Tejay Van Garderen (USA) 33/1

Andy Schleck (LUX) 40/1

Froome pretty much has this locked up, but they are going up Alpe d'Huez twice today.

Froome pretty much has this locked up, but they are going up Alpe d'Huez twice today.

 

Is it even physically possible to complete such a stage without PEDs?