Love the platoonage we've got going on right now.

Platoon them in the 8th or 9th spot in the lineup.

Beckham's poor range at 3rd doesn't seem to translate well to SS.

 

Range at 3B is more about reaction time than speed.

 

 

Range at 3B is more about reaction time than speed.

This, here. It's a different skillset than SS.

Nix all the way man. He's like cockrock, you can't go wrong. I've always read on here that Oz doesn't put enough emphasis on defense and too much on speed. So then why Getz over Nix? I understand the whole added lefty, better average added to it. I still choose Nix. Now if we can just find a way to get Deweezy more at bats....

Not sure what cockrock is. I'm scared. Someone hold me.

Nix all the way man. He's like cockrock, you can't go wrong. I've always read on here that Oz doesn't put enough emphasis on defense and too much on speed. So then why Getz over Nix? I understand the whole added lefty, better average added to it. I still choose Nix. Now if we can just find a way to get Deweezy more at bats....

 

It's odd, but with our declined HR numbers from a few different positions in the lineup...Nix actually helps us be better tailored to our park's specifics.

 

Although, I do like that use of two lefties in a row: 9-Getz/1-Pods one two punch. Tempts managers to put in their good lefty against those two in clutch situations. At that point you can PH Nix for Getz.....and then the guy is left in to face Pods who is hitting LHP well.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by Princess Dye

Nix all the way man. He's like cockrock, you can't go wrong. I've always read on here that Oz doesn't put enough emphasis on defense and too much on speed. So then why Getz over Nix? I understand the whole added lefty, better average added to it. I still choose Nix. Now if we can just find a way to get Deweezy more at bats....

Wow, all of these points were sound. Until the last one. Now, i sense sarcasm. Misguided sarcasm, but sarcasm just the same.

I'd rather have Alexei at 2b

I agree, I would love to have Alexei back at second base, Nix at shortstop, & Bacon at Third. With Alexei's Arm at 2B again I would love that, plus he seems to really get good jumps from the right side of the infield. With Paulie & Dye on the right side he doesn't hesitate going after balls on that side. My only reservation would be to many right handed batters. Although with Kotsay & Getz in the Line-up, plus AJ, & Thome(outfield-Pods & wise) we can bat 6 lefties. However, I really like our balance with Getz coming back. Pitching is (relievers) is my biggest concern.

 

AI wouldn't want to change things to much, but Nix played third once or twice & I think he could play third just as well as Bacon. Bacon could probaly move to any of those positions, he has a very accurate arm.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by soxfan-kwman

I don't know if it would be the norm, but Nix was a disaster at SS in the limited time there.

Getz is the balls.

Wow, all of these points were sound. Until the last one. Now, i sense sarcasm. Misguided sarcasm, but sarcasm just the same.

 

However misguided my love for the black Ross Gload may be, it shall never die. I believe he has truly just been lying in the weeds, playing rope-a-dope. When he finally gets an opportunity when the time counts, he will unleash himself.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by jamesdiego

Did someone say Nix is a better hitter than Getz?

Did someone say Nix is a better hitter than Getz?

not sure, but his OPS is 100 points better.

Getz brings the speed, better average, and a possible lead off candidate in the future. Nix brings great defense and decent power. Lillibridge looks pretty funny. Who would you want starting?

Getz brings a whole new set of qualities to the field that the Sox don't really have and he put up a pretty good line since the all star break. I like Getz a lot.

 

Nix is a real solid back-up though and he has good at bats but I don't know if he'll ever hit for enough of an average to be an everyday player. I like what Getz brings as a starter and what Nix brings as a back-up.

Getz.

But Nix's power is intriguing. What if he learned how to both hit these home runs as he's doing AND stroke some regular singles to right once in a while?

He might be really something.

But I'd vote the grinder Getz.

Getz and Nix both have a .325 OBP with Getz having the edge in BA and Nix having an edge in SLG. Getz is 18-20 in SBs and Nix is 8-8 and Getz has a better fielding pct. So it is sort of pick your poison. Nix seems to fit better when one of the big bats is out of the lineup.

According to FAngraph...wins above replacement for second basemen:

Chase Utley: 5.5

Jayson Nix: 1.3

Juan Uribe: 1.0

Chris Getz: 0.4

Aaron Miles: -1.05

 

I think that sounds about right. Seems we are perhaps over rating Getz because of his grindiness? Or we figure he's young and getting better? Or we like his 18 stolen bases? At this point he is a defensive liability...-3.6 rating by Fangraphs. Nix is about the same age, a much better hitter and a much better fielder. The biggest question about Nix is...are his batting stats an illusion based on Guillen's platooning? I sure think it makes sense to try Nix for three weeks everyday to see.

Nix is a prolific defender, he takes pitchers, and has a good deal of pop. He's also an above-average base-runner. Getz has modest range, has a nice approach at the plate, is a good base-runner, but has no pop at all. I think Nix can offer a lot more in the starting lineup then Getz.

Nix is a prolific defender

 

But not at SS. He's made Alexei look like Ozzie smith this year.

 

The platoon between the two is perfect.

Nix is a prolific defender, he takes pitchers, and has a good deal of pop. He's also an above-average base-runner. Getz has modest range, has a nice approach at the plate, is a good base-runner, but has no pop at all. I think Nix can offer a lot more in the starting lineup then Getz.

 

Nix by far has the better potential of the two and it isn't even close, but Getz is that grinder/hustle guy that most teams need on their team. He can become a really solid ball player with time. I hope Nix can get a shot playing full time either with us or another team next year. His upside is really special and I just don't like him being limited to a utility player after this year. For now though, the platoon is perfect and they both need it.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by SoxAce

If you're listening to Hawk he's likely to be a 70+ HR guy.

 

He said 30 hr power and I can believe it.

Nix is on a statistical pace for about 30 homeruns in a 162 game season. Getz is on pace for about three.

Edited August 18, 200916 yr by Thunderbolt

Nix is on a statistical pace for about 30 homeruns in a 162 game season. Getz is on pace for about three.

Projections like this don't mean much of anything. Put Nix in and have him play 155 games against both RHP and LHP and then see what he looks like. If he wasn't so bad against RHP he would be a MLB starter.