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Chicago White Sox @ LA Angels, 9:05 PM, WGN

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Paulie is slow as s*** and has hip issues. He's also an "easy" replace as a 1B, as 1B isn't as skilled of a position as CF. If he's failing and flailing about with his large contract and increasing age, of course people will call for his ouster, just like they're calling for Dye'sexit this year.

 

I really don't understand your position.

In my world, Paulie has been a great player and last year didn't deserve the bashing. He came back nicely this year and may in fact finish with 30 HRs.

Same for Dye. His track record I'd think makes it easier to not bash him.

For me, it's much easier to bash a guy like Rios for making out after out after out and not blaming Oz for "not giving him regular playing time." Pleeeeeze. You didn't say that, but somebody did.

I mean if Rios had hit a home run there I'd have applauded his ass. He didn't. He DPed again.

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Gavin at almost 50 pitches already. I hope he can give us at least 6 tonight.

Gavin 48 pitches through 2 innings.

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NIX!

Nix owns Saunders 3 Hr's in 4 AB's.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 09:54 PM)
I really don't understand your position.

In my world, Paulie has been a great player and last year didn't deserve the bashing. He came back nicely this year and may in fact finish with 30 HRs.

Same for Dye. His track record I'd think makes it easier to not bash him.

For me, it's much easier to bash a guy like Rios for making out after out after out and not blaming Oz for "not giving him regular playing time." Pleeeeeze. You didn't say that, but somebody did.

I mean if Rios had hit a home run there I'd have applauded his ass. He didn't. He DPed again.

 

LOL. You're awesome, greg.

There must be a decent amount of Sox fans near where they mic the crowd, cause it sounds 50/50 without the announcers.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 09:57 PM)
Nix owns Saunders 3 Hr's in 4 AB's.

 

If only he could hit RH pitching. We'd have a pretty good player on our hands.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 10:54 PM)
I really don't understand your position.

In my world, Paulie has been a great player and last year didn't deserve the bashing. He came back nicely this year and may in fact finish with 30 HRs.

Same for Dye. His track record I'd think makes it easier to not bash him.

For me, it's much easier to bash a guy like Rios for making out after out after out and not blaming Oz for "not giving him regular playing time." Pleeeeeze. You didn't say that, but somebody did.

I mean if Rios had hit a home run there I'd have applauded his ass. He didn't. He DPed again.

My position?

 

You asked why people boo Wise and Konerko but not Rios. I gave you reasoning as to why it may be happening.

 

Paulie and Dye deserve criticism as much as AJ, Pods, Jenks or anyone who is still on this roster from the "magical" 2005 season. At a certain point, guys get older and regress. If a guy needs replacing because he's starting to be less effective, people will boo them or complain about them. That's the perpetual-ness of baseball. The old guys get older, then get replaced by young guys.

 

If you are going to wear blinders against guys who won in the past but ignore their failings now, then there's always the 2005 WS DVD.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 08:57 PM)
Nix owns Saunders 3 Hr's in 4 AB's.

That's awesome. :D

Nice job, Gavin. Only 10 pitches that inning.

Not sure how anybody can complain about the season Konerko has had.

 

 

Because it needs to be said, again, Nix>>Getz by a large margin.

 

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 04:00 AM)
If only he could hit RH pitching. We'd have a pretty good player on our hands.

We already have a good player on our hands.

"That's trouble..." finished by "Pods is there!" that must be rare.

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 11:10 PM)
Not sure how anybody can complain about the season Konerko has had.

We're not. Greg brought up last season with Konerko.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 10:12 PM)
Because it needs to be said, again, Nix>>Getz by a large margin.

 

Yeah that .235 batting average is really blowing up my skirt.

 

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 10:12 PM)
Because it needs to be said, again, Nix>>Getz by a large margin.

 

 

We already have a good player on our hands.

 

Not when you're that bad against RH pitching. I like him in the role he's in now. But he's not an everyday player.

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 08:19 PM)
Yeah that .235 batting average is really blowing up my skirt.

The .904 OPS against LHP ought to be Marilyn Monroeing you.

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 04:19 AM)
Yeah that .235 batting average is really blowing up my skirt.

Some run correlations from last year:

 

2008

Batting Average - r = .679

On Base Percentage - r = .834

Slugging - r = .903

OPS - r = .944

 

Batting average just isn't important when you have OBP, SLG and OPS.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 10:28 PM)
Some run correlations from last year:

 

2008

Batting Average - r = .679

On Base Percentage - r = .834

Slugging - r = .903

OPS - r = .944

 

Batting average just isn't important when you have OBP, SLG and OPS.

 

I agree with this. Especially when you factor in where he usually hits in the order. And it's a plus to get that kinda power production from a middle infielder. I wish he was just average against RH pitching. As there's obviously more RH pitchers than LH pitchers.

This is why I pay no attention to what Det and Minn do. None of that matters as we are what we are. A .500 team.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 09:44 PM)
It's weird how it's OK to pounce on some players (Wise) and not OK to pounce on others (Rios).

I would never boo Rios from the stands BTW. I don't boo players. But he deserves some venom on here.

 

Wise is a not so good baseball player. He is a career minor leaguer who cannot hit at the major league level. Rios is a guy who has put together some pretty good seasons offensively, in fact 4 of them. So when a player has a few good years, and has a bad one. You can say maybe its a bad year. If he keeps it up, sure he will get his venom from plenty. Comparing a career minor leaguer with a guy who has put up a 47 doubles in a season is a joke.

 

We will win this game. Who is with me?

We will win this game. Who is with me?

not i

QUOTE (GasHeGone @ Sep 11, 2009 -> 10:42 PM)
We will win this game. Who is with me?

 

Nope.

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