NorthSideSox72 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 09:46 AM) I have to imagine that the American companies have plenty of foreign employees as well. And that, to me, was why I never understood the whole "rah rah, buy American" bulls***. They're "American" in that they were founded here, period. Well, and the profits mostly stay here, and the higher paying upper management jobs are mostly here. There is a little more to it than you characterize. Still, I overall agree that the buy American stuff is a bit silly at this point. There are foreign cars with higher American parts and manufacture content than some American cars at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 11:29 AM) Well, and the profits mostly stay here, and the higher paying upper management jobs are mostly here. There is a little more to it than you characterize. Still, I overall agree that the buy American stuff is a bit silly at this point. There are foreign cars with higher American parts and manufacture content than some American cars at this point. Nobody cares about that, to get right down to it. "Buy American" is usually meant to help the average guy working on the floor of the Ford plant. If Ford really gave two s***s about those people, like they want us to, they'd put more time into making a better car. More people would then buy them and they'd be able to hire more people in America. Edited February 23, 2012 by Milkman delivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 12:47 PM) Nobody cares about that, to get right down to it. "Buy American" is usually meant to help the average guy working on the floor of the Ford plant. If Ford really gave two s***s about those people, like they want us to, they'd put more time into making a better car. More people would then buy them and they'd be able to hire more people in America. The argument about making better cars is a decade or two stale. GM and Ford products have improved a lot in that time, in fact until recently Ford was right there with Lexus near the top in reliability. I don't do the Buy American thing, I buy the best car for my needs - sometimes its a Ford or GM product, sometimes it isn't. Chrysler, on the other hand, has been a garbage brand all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 12:29 PM) Well, and the profits mostly stay here, and the higher paying upper management jobs are mostly here. There is a little more to it than you characterize. Still, I overall agree that the buy American stuff is a bit silly at this point. There are foreign cars with higher American parts and manufacture content than some American cars at this point. Also the engineering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) The argument about making better cars is a decade or two stale. GM and Ford products have improved a lot in that time, in fact until recently Ford was right there with Lexus near the top in reliability. I don't do the Buy American thing, I buy the best car for my needs - sometimes its a Ford or GM product, sometimes it isn't. Chrysler, on the other hand, has been a garbage brand all along. 100% agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) GM and Ford products have improved a lot in that time Plus GM built my dream car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 The Nissan Leaf?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 08:43 AM) Hey, Toyota does employ a good number of American workers. (Thanks in no small part to a Reagan era trade war regulation requiring them to do so to continue selling their products here). ^^^ post of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 23, 2012 -> 05:18 PM) The Nissan Leaf?! Obviously the Volt. Not sure i want to pay insurance on 2 cars just so I can have one electric for local driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 This is pretty embarrassing: Romney campaign speech in Detriot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 12:10 PM) This is pretty embarrassing: Romney campaign speech in Detriot They couldn't possibly have thought that they would have that many people attend a primary campaign stop. Edit: Was he making a speech about the American auto industry or something at Ford Field? Edited February 24, 2012 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 12:31 PM) They couldn't possibly have thought that they would have that many people attend a primary campaign stop. Edit: Was he making a speech about the American auto industry or something at Ford Field? Make some excuse and change to a smaller venue or something. Less than 2000 people at a stadium that holds more than 60,000. Even a basketball stadium would look pretty sparse with 2000 people. He was making a general economics speech but I'd guess that the auto companies played a big role. Still, you have to think about the images that would come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) They couldn't possibly have thought that they would have that many people attend a primary campaign stop. Edit: Was he making a speech about the American auto industry or something at Ford Field? With 5 to 10 thousand people, they could have made that event look huge, actually. If your stage is just past the end zone, the cameras only see one portion of the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 You're already posting non-official event images though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Jeb Bush: "I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and I’m wondering, I don’t think I’ve changed, but it’s a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people’s fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective, and that’s kind of where we are," Edited February 24, 2012 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 03:58 PM) Jeb Bush: 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 He just openly said he "used to be a conservative" and essentially trashed movement conservatives who are driving their party off of a cliff. I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 24, 2012 -> 05:35 PM) He just openly said he "used to be a conservative" and essentially trashed movement conservatives who are driving their party off of a cliff. I doubt it. Like when John McCain ruined his Republican career during his brief flirtation with being a centrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 What the deuce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 10 points to the person that finds what's wrong with this picture!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Edit: mentioned, read the date wrong. Edited February 27, 2012 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 25, 2012 -> 06:42 PM) The usual republican tactic of lying about voting dates backfires. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 25, 2012 -> 03:42 PM) The usual republican tactic of lying about voting dates backfires. Ron Paul bumper sticker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 So according to Santorum, Obama is a snob for wanting our children to get a college education. What a dips***. It also turns out that Santorum has more advanced degrees than Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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