Jim Fainter Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 To Royce Clayton fans, and I know there are legions of them out there, has the distinction of having the lowest BA in the majors for the month of July (.143). Who was it that paid him $4-5 MM per year for two years in 2001-2002? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Rangers gave him the money, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 28, 2003 Author Share Posted July 28, 2003 Negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 One of KW's most brilliant acquisitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 I wish we still had Royce, his defense was so helpful to our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike12345 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 i dont care how good his defense is when he can barely even keep his average above .200..royce clayton is prolly the worst short stop the sox have ever had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 HMM Jim you may be right but I thought the rangers gave them the contract and we traded for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 I don't know who I disliked more, Royce or Ritchie. Wait ... I know the answer to that ... Royce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 29, 2003 Author Share Posted July 29, 2003 The Rangers signed Clayton to that contract. When it had two more years to run, the Rangers signed A-Rod, so they didn't need Clayton, and they put him on the trading block. KW obliged them, did them a big time favor, by taking Clayton and his contract off their hands. The Rangers had no leverage, and KW just aimed to please. I never understood that trade, notwithstanding Clayton's defensive abilities. The economics of the trade made no sense to the Sox. It's like we paid 20 % of A-Rods salary for two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 The Rangers signed Clayton to that contract. When it had two more years to run, the Rangers signed A-Rod, so they didn't need Clayton, and they put him on the trading block. KW obliged them, did them a big time favor, by taking Clayton and his contract off their hands. The Rangers had no leverage, and KW just aimed to please. I never understood that trade, notwithstanding Clayton's defensive abilities. The economics of the trade made no sense to the Sox. It's like we paid 20 % of A-Rods salary for two years. bingo and clayton is a prick so where is all the kw backers on this worst ever trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 i dont care how good his defense is when he can barely even keep his average above .200..royce clayton is prolly the worst short stop the sox have ever had. You are wrong, Mike Caruso can have that title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Or Bee Bee Richard or Harry Chappas. Those were the two worst SS I ever saw in a Sox uniform. That being said, the Clayton deal was a disaster, and there's no defending it in my opinion. The bigger problem was and is ... the White Sox's inability as an organization to draft and develop a SS. Maybe this kid Valido will be the answer. It looks like Andy Gonzalez has a case of Jason Dellaero ... can't hit a lick. I don't understand why, for such a key position, you wouldn't spend a high draft choice every year, i.e. rounds 1-5, on the best SS you can find. Even if you get lucky and more than one pan out, they can always be packaged in a trade. The Sox picked Dellaero high in '97 and the next high draft choice was Mike Morse, 3rd round 2000 I think. Morse is struggling with the bat too. Maybe Gonzalez and Morse will turn it around with the stick, but they've got to add some depth at SS and they've also got to identify a long-term solution ... maybe as soon as this season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 i dont care how good his defense is when he can barely even keep his average above .200..royce clayton is prolly the worst short stop the sox have ever had. bulls***. Royce is not prolly the worst ss we ever had you never saw Luis Alvarado or Bee Bee Richard play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Royce is not prolly the worst ss we ever had He still sucks though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Royce is not prolly the worst ss we ever had He still sucks though we'll never agree on that but think about it - you need Royce Clayton to have been a Sox - for the rest fo your life you have something to really b**** about - just like I do with Luis Alvarado and Bee Bee Richard - in the proud tradition of Luke Appling and Luis Aparicio: Luis Alvarado and Bee Bee Richard and _____________ [fill in the blank] in retrospect, the Royce Clayton tenure did not promote anything good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Bee Bee Richard, where are you now?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo Paz Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Yeah, Alvarado sucked pretty good, but I used to love to watch him field ground balls between his legs and behind his back in the pre-game warm ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 Or Bee Bee Richard Wow, Bee Bee Richard, that's going back a long way. Didn't he play for us like 30 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 1.Wow, Bee Bee Richard, that's going back a long way. 2. Didn't he play for us like 30 years ago? 1. it is not that long to me - 2. I was in college then - it is like yesterday to me, child! someday you'll be my age - and some youngin' will discuss your memories as being "really long ago" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 29, 2003 Share Posted July 29, 2003 cwsox, I have agree to agree with on the Alvarado and Richard comment. They were awful. But Clayton doesn't rank to much above them. Give me a Scotty Fletcher type over Clayton any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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